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Just in case anyone is still wondering why all the fuss about html email,
the email below arrived in the digest exactly as it is shown below.  I am
already used to just scrolling through all the junk, as probably around half
of the people using this list are either sending, or responding to people
who have sent, mime/html formatted emails.  The point has been made before
to little or no effect, but even one less person sending html makes the
digest that little bit more user friendly.  Sorry for the clutter.

Martin

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:07:23 -0400
From: "Phil" <sublime78ska@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs

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Dan, this is a pain.  I've found no solution either.  It may not be your
post that did it, though.  When replying, at least using Outlook, you can't
change the format.  You only have option of selecting the format when you
create a new message.  I too have the "send using plain text" option
selected for the mailing lists.  So when I select new message, it is by
default text.  But if I reply to a message that is html, the reply will be
html as well.

Outlook Express, in many ways, is better.  But I use the rest of Outlook -
not just the e-mail client - so I haven't switched back to Outlook Express
and probably won't.

Phil

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Bale, Dan
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:52 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Cc: chris.bipes@cross-check.com
Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs

>PLEASE TURN OFF HTML!
CR*P!  When I created the address book entry for the mailing lists, I
specified to *NOT* send in microsoft Rich Text Format.  On another form, I
selected "MIME-plain text".  The other options were:  "Plain text/UUEncode".
I see no options for HTML.  I'm using Outlook 97.  (Is that the bug?)
If someone knows how to turn this off so that I never send HTML to the list,
please let me know!
Are *ALL* my posts arriving with HTML?  I ask because I've suspected that it
may also be caused by the messages you reply to, and if they're HTML-coded,
Outlook may ignore my preferences and do likewise with my reply.
Sorry for the mess!
Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
- -------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
- -----Original Message-----
From:   Chris Bipes [SMTP:chris.bipes@cross-check.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:50 PM
To:     'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject:        RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs
SPCAUT(*NONE)is what we use for all our users.
PLEASE TURN OFF HTML!
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bale, Dan [ mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:02 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs

Thanks, Chris!
I'm sure you meant no special authorities *beyond* what *USER gets, but does
this profile specify SPCAUT(*USRCLS) or SPCAUT(*NONE)?

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n, this
is a pain.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I&#8217;ve =
found no solution
either.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It may not be =
your post
that did it, though.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>When
replying, at least using Outlook, you can&#8217;t change the =
format.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>You only have option of =
selecting the
format when you create a new message.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;
</span>I too have the &#8220;send using plain text&#8221; option =
selected for the mailing lists.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>So when I select new message, =
it is by
default text.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>But if I =
reply to a
message that is html, the reply will be html as =
well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ou=
tlook
Express, in many ways, is better.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;
</span>But I use the rest of Outlook &#8211; not just the e-mail client =
&#8211; so I haven&#8217;t
switched back to Outlook Express and probably =
won&#8217;t.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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il<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-midrange-l@midrange.com =
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bale, Dan<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 26, =
2001 6:52
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
chris.bipes@cross-check.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: NFS server =
errors;
LOTS of DUMPs</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if =
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><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>PLEASE TURN OFF HTML!</span></font><font =
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style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>CR*P!&nbsp; When =
I
created the address book entry for the mailing lists, I specified to =
*NOT* send
in microsoft Rich Text Format.&nbsp; On another form, I selected
&quot;MIME-plain text&quot;.&nbsp; The other options were:&nbsp; =
&quot;Plain
text/UUEncode&quot;.&nbsp; I see no options for HTML.&nbsp; I'm using =
Outlook
97.&nbsp; (Is that the bug?)</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If someone knows =
how to
turn this off so that I never send HTML to the list, please let me =
know!</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Are *ALL* my =
posts
arriving with HTML?&nbsp; I ask because I've suspected that it may also =
be
caused by the messages you reply to, and if they're HTML-coded, Outlook =
may
ignore my preferences and do likewise with my reply.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Sorry for the =
mess!&nbsp;
</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Dan =
Bale</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>IT - AS/400</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Handleman Company</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>248-362-4400&nbsp; Ext. =
4952</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>D.Bale@Handleman.com</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dpurple face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:purple;font-style:italic'>&nbsp; Quiquid =
latine
dictum sit altum viditur.</span></font></i><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dpurple face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:purple;font-style:italic'>&nbsp; =
(Whatever is
said in Latin seems profound.)</span></font></i><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>---------------=
- -----------
Original Message --------------------------</span></font><font =
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style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</=
span></font></b><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Chris
Bipes [SMTP:chris.bipes@cross-check.com]</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</=
span></font></b><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Tuesday,
June 26, 2001 5:50 PM</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'>
<br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;</span></font></b><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>'MIDRANGE-L@midra=
nge.com'</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></b><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>RE: NFS
server errors; LOTS of DUMPs</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>SPCAUT(*NONE)is =
what we
use for all our users.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'>
</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>PLEASE TURN OFF =
HTML!</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>From: Bale, Dan [</span></font><u><font =
size=3D2
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'><a =
href=3D"mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com">mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com</a></spa=
n></font></u><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>]</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:02 =
PM</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>To: =
MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of =
DUMPs</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks, Chris! =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>I'm sure you meant no special authorities
*beyond* what *USER gets, but does</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>this profile specify SPCAUT(*USRCLS) or
SPCAUT(*NONE)?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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