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Just in case anyone is still wondering why all the fuss about html email, the email below arrived in the digest exactly as it is shown below. I am already used to just scrolling through all the junk, as probably around half of the people using this list are either sending, or responding to people who have sent, mime/html formatted emails. The point has been made before to little or no effect, but even one less person sending html makes the digest that little bit more user friendly. Sorry for the clutter. Martin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:07:23 -0400 From: "Phil" <sublime78ska@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0FE7B.9D18BAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan, this is a pain. I've found no solution either. It may not be your post that did it, though. When replying, at least using Outlook, you can't change the format. You only have option of selecting the format when you create a new message. I too have the "send using plain text" option selected for the mailing lists. So when I select new message, it is by default text. But if I reply to a message that is html, the reply will be html as well. Outlook Express, in many ways, is better. But I use the rest of Outlook - not just the e-mail client - so I haven't switched back to Outlook Express and probably won't. Phil - -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Bale, Dan Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:52 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Cc: chris.bipes@cross-check.com Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs >PLEASE TURN OFF HTML! CR*P! When I created the address book entry for the mailing lists, I specified to *NOT* send in microsoft Rich Text Format. On another form, I selected "MIME-plain text". The other options were: "Plain text/UUEncode". I see no options for HTML. I'm using Outlook 97. (Is that the bug?) If someone knows how to turn this off so that I never send HTML to the list, please let me know! Are *ALL* my posts arriving with HTML? I ask because I've suspected that it may also be caused by the messages you reply to, and if they're HTML-coded, Outlook may ignore my preferences and do likewise with my reply. Sorry for the mess! Dan Bale IT - AS/400 Handleman Company 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 D.Bale@Handleman.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) - -------------------------- Original Message -------------------------- - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Bipes [SMTP:chris.bipes@cross-check.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:50 PM To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs SPCAUT(*NONE)is what we use for all our users. PLEASE TURN OFF HTML! - -----Original Message----- From: Bale, Dan [ mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:02 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs Thanks, Chris! I'm sure you meant no special authorities *beyond* what *USER gets, but does this profile specify SPCAUT(*USRCLS) or SPCAUT(*NONE)? - ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0FE7B.9D18BAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C0FE7B.9CB9F900"> <title>RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs</title> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; 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mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} /* List Definitions */ ol {margin-bottom:0in;} ul {margin-bottom:0in;} - --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Da= n, this is a pain.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I’ve = found no solution either.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>It may not be = your post that did it, though.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>When replying, at least using Outlook, you can’t change the = format.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>You only have option of = selecting the format when you create a new message.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: = yes"> </span>I too have the “send using plain text” option = selected for the mailing lists.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>So when I select new message, = it is by default text.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>But if I = reply to a message that is html, the reply will be html as = well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!= [if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ou= tlook Express, in many ways, is better.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: = yes"> </span>But I use the rest of Outlook – not just the e-mail client = – so I haven’t switched back to Outlook Express and probably = won’t.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!= [if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ph= il<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!= [if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-midrange-l@midrange.com = [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bale, Dan<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 26, = 2001 6:52 PM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> = chris.bipes@cross-check.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: NFS server = errors; LOTS of DUMPs</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>></span></font= ><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black'>PLEASE TURN OFF HTML!</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>CR*P! When = I created the address book entry for the mailing lists, I specified to = *NOT* send in microsoft Rich Text Format. On another form, I selected "MIME-plain text". The other options were: = "Plain text/UUEncode". I see no options for HTML. I'm using = Outlook 97. (Is that the bug?)</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If someone knows = how to turn this off so that I never send HTML to the list, please let me = know!</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Are *ALL* my = posts arriving with HTML? I ask because I've suspected that it may also = be caused by the messages you reply to, and if they're HTML-coded, Outlook = may ignore my preferences and do likewise with my reply.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Sorry for the = mess! </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Dan = Bale</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>IT - AS/400</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Handleman Company</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>248-362-4400 Ext. = 4952</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>D.Bale@Handleman.com</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dpurple face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:purple;font-style:italic'> Quiquid = latine dictum sit altum viditur.</span></font></i><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dpurple face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:purple;font-style:italic'> = (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)</span></font></i><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>---------------= - ----------- Original Message --------------------------</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original Message-----</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From: </= span></font></b><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Chris Bipes [SMTP:chris.bipes@cross-check.com]</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent: </= span></font></b><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:50 PM</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>To: &nbs= p; </span></font></b><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>'MIDRANGE-L@midra= nge.com'</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:  = ; </span></font></b><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D1 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of DUMPs</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>SPCAUT(*NONE)is = what we use for all our users.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>PLEASE TURN OFF = HTML!</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original Message-----</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black'>From: Bale, Dan [</span></font><u><font = size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:blue'><a = href=3D"mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com">mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com</a></spa= n></font></u><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black'>]</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:02 = PM</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black'>To: = MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black'>Subject: RE: NFS server errors; LOTS of = DUMPs</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks, Chris! = </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black'>I'm sure you meant no special authorities *beyond* what *USER gets, but does</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black'>this profile specify SPCAUT(*USRCLS) or SPCAUT(*NONE)?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> </div> </body> </html> - ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0FE7B.9D18BAD0-- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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