RE: Vegas 400 shoppes....was (something else) -- MIDRANGE-L

Midrange group?  None that I'm aware of.  There's a local PCUG propped up by
Microsoft, there was a local OS/2 group that eventually died (~1.5 years
ago), but no midrange group.  It's been talked about once or twice, some
organizational stuff attempted, but it always died due to lack of interest.

Harrah's IT is dispersed over LV, RNO Memphis and A/C.  Park Place is almost
completely Atlantic City area.  MRG always seems to be turning over.  Just
not a lot of interest in a user's group.  Plus LV is basically an island
surrounded by 250 mi of sand.  Tough to find speakers, etc.  It just seems
there's no compelling interest in the UG concept here.  

Lots of attendees at the tech conference when it's been here, but there were
only 8-10 at the last one in Palm Springs (5 from here, but two were
managers (might as well set the money on fire)).

-----Original Message-----
From: Don [mailto:dr2@cssas400.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:30 PM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com '
Subject: Vegas 400 shoppes....was (something else)




Tom,

So, tell me, why with all those 400 shops in Vegas is there no users
group in Vegas??




On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Westdorp, Tom wrote:

> To clarify:
> 
> MGM Mirage (MGM Grand, Mirage, Treasure Island, Bellagio) use Tandem
> computers.  Mirage wanted to use Back Office and blew millions trying.
They
> won't run a /400 if there's any alternative, with no apparent regard to
cost
> effectiveness.
> 
> /400's are at:
> Harrah's & Rio
> Park Place Entertainment (Caesars, Bally's, Flamingo Hilton, Paris, Big
> Hilton)
> Aladdin
> Mandalay Resort Group (Circus Circus, Luxor, Mandalay, Excalibur)
> Sahara
> Riviera
> Frontier (not sure if 400's still there)
> Tropicana
> New York, New York
> Monte Carlo
> 4 Queens
> Stardust
> in Primm, Whiskey Pete's and Buffalo Bill's
> and last, but not least!, Station Casinos (Palace, Boulder, Sunset, Texas,
> Santa Fe, Fiesta, Reserve, Wild Wild West, Barley's and (Coming Soon)
Green
> Valley Ranch)
> 
> Tahoe has /400's at Harrah's, Harveys, Caesars and there used to be /400's
> at the other too (forget the name)
> 
> Reno has /400's at Bally's, Flamingo Hilton, Harrah's, Peppermill
> 
> Atlantic City may well be all /400's as most are owned by Trump, Harrah's,
> or Park Place and those are all /400 shops.
> 
> There may be others in hotel/casino, too.  I'm old and forget things.
> 
> By /400 I mean some variant of /400, /400e, e(logo)server iSeries.
> 
> 
> Tom Westdorp
> Station Casinos
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jpcarr@tredegar.com
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Sent: 6/19/01 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: i NATION ListServer Confusion/ownership
> 
> 
> Chris
> Without a doubt that needs to be done too.  I think Vega was around 70%
> AS/400's at the casinos and Atlantic City near 100 % of the casinos.   I
> think the Mirage(?) was just written up for a system where hotel people
> meet you at the door with Palm's and register you,  check you in, encode
> your room key all while you are just coming thru the door(everything
> going
> to the AS/400 of course).  You never have to see the front desk.     The
> war has a couple of front lines.    (oh ya,  how many know that the war
> crime court in The Hague has all it's files on an AS/400).    These ALL
> need to be done.    We can all pick a battle that interests us.
> 
> John
> 
> ----------------------------------
> 
> I am slightly more reserved in my visions. I just have visions of the
> many
> people who actually depend on AS/400s finding out about it. In Las
> Vegas,
> every major property operates primarily off of IBM midrange (or at least
> they all did). That's because Las Vegas requires 24/7 dependability.
> Even
> the Mirage Resorts, which tried several very expensive projects to
> replace
> their 400s with NT had to keep the boxes around for handling business
> infrastructure.
> But how many employees know their paychecks were printed on a 400? Or
> how
> many people had any idea their rooms, banking, phone services, whatever
> were handled by AS/400 because that machine kept purring.
> I used to equate it to a pacemaker. When you buy a pacemaker, will you
> pick
> the shiniest, or the most reliable? If your manager bought you the
> shiniest, was he really a good manager?
> Chris Rehm <javadisciple@earthlink.net
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------
> jpcarr@tredegar.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I have visions of magazines getting 5,000 to 10,000 emails asking for
> iSeries coverage in stead of 5 to 10 emails.
> 
> I have visions of IBM people getting 5,000 - 10,000 messages about our
> views instead of 5 to 10 messages.
> 
> 
> John Carr
> 
> 
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