Re: backups on AS/400, objects

[Evan Harris <spanner@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Rob

Well I did say if gave me a "reasonable" fix :)

I would have thought that re-displaying a couple of times would bring those 
jobs up if they were truly active. Also I would expect any inactive jobs in 
QINTER to show up, as being signed on constitutes "activity".

I wouldn't expect prestart ot autostart jobs to necessarily show up or 
group jobs. I would have thought Command 14 would show me everything if I 
had any doubts about what was actually active.

I can't recall ever coming upon the problem you describe but am happy to 
take your word for it. In fact I'll pull out the Work Management manual 
today and see if I can get a fix on the situation you're describing.

Cheers
Evan Harris



>WRKACTJOB is a joke!
>
>I have an experienced user who would use WRKACTJOB to ensure that everyone
>was out.  Then they would use WRKOBJLCK and find that there were still jobs
>running in QINTER which held locks, yet didn't show up on WRKACTJOB.
>Why do you think they call it wrkACTjob?  There must be some level of
>activity for it to show on WRKACTJOB.
>A better choice is WRKSBSJOB.  This command showed the jobs that WRKACTJOB
>didn't show.  And I am not talking about system tasks, like you see in
>WRKSYSACT.
>This is even documented by IBM in the help for WRKSYSACT:
>It is possible for a job to not appear on the WRKACTJOB display even
>though an active status is shown for the job on one of the following
>displays:
>  o  Work with Job (WRKJOB)
>  o  Work with Subsystem Jobs (WRKSBSJOB)
>  o  Work with Submitted Jobs (WRKSBMJOB)
>  o  Work with User Jobs (WRKUSRJOB)
>
>This is because a status indicator that is used to determine whether
>a job is active in the job's internal structure indicates an active
>status just before and just after the actual processing of the job.
>Normally, the amount of time that a job is in this state is very
>short, but the following conditions can make it longer:
>...
>
><snip>
>Evan Harris
>I find WRKACTJOB gives me a reasonable fix on this (on those days I feel
>like playing nice). If you WRKACTJOB and look in the interactive susbystem,
>
>take a command 11, column INT will indicate whether any activity is taking
>place. You can watch the numbers change - 0 indicates no activity. I think
>this indicates Interactions but I'm open to correction.
><endsnip>
>Rob Berendt
>
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