Re: Network Pasthru -- MIDRANGE-L

Alex,

This sounded close until I noticed that it was SNA over TCP/IP. What I probably
need is TCP/IP over SNA but I don't want to have to load tcp onto the V3R2M0
system. I think what I am trying to do is TCP/IP to the V4R4M0 (soon V4R5M0) and
APPN through it to the V3R2M0 over SNA.

Roger Vicker, CCP

Alex A Moore wrote:

> See
> Document Number: 22090321
> Functional Area:  Communications
> Subfunctional Area:  PEER
> Sub-Subfunctional Area:  AnyNet
> OS/400 Release: ALL
> Product:  Operating System/400 - OS/400 COMM BASE (5716SS1CM)
> Product Release: N/A
>
> in the IBM knowledge base at http://as400service.rochester.ibm.com/
>
> V3R2 <--> V4R5 works fine
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Roger Vicker, CCP
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:26 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Network Pasthru
>
> Neil,
>
> OK. The V4R4M0 with TCP system already has CHGNETA ALWANYNET(*YES).
> So, how do I set
> up the routes on the V3R2M0 and V4R4M0 over the SNA? Will the V3R2M0
> system need
> the TCP utilities (which it doesn't have)?
>
> Roger Vicker, CCP
>
> neilp@dpslink.com wrote:
>
> > Yes - if you configure IP over SNA you will be assigning an IP address to
> > the destination 400 and you'd use that (again assuming your routes are set
> > correctly) to open a Telnet session direct to that 400.  I played with IP
> > over SNA a little about a year or so ago, to get OpsNav to run over an
> > SDLC line (ECS modem) to a remote system.  My memory is a little fuzzy on
> > it, but I think it worked.
> >
> > ...Neil
> >
> > "DeLong, Eric" <EDeLong@Sallybeauty.com>
> > Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > 2001/05/04 09:48
> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
> >
> >
> >         To:     "'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        RE: Network Pasthru
> >
> > Neil,
> > I didn't realize IP could go over SNA. I've always seen/heard of Anynet
> > being SNA over IP. If that's the case, then I'll defer to your answer. How
> > would you configure CA Express? You wouldn't have an IP address for the
> > AS400, would you?
> >
> > curious,
> > Eric DeLong
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: neilp@dpslink.com [mailto:neilp@dpslink.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:01 AM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE: Network Pasthru
> >
> > I can't see why this wouldn't work if you set up AnyNet IP over SNA
> > between the 2 400's, turn on IP datagram forwarding in the TCP/IP
> > attributes on the 400 that's already running an IP connection, and define
> > the route correctly.  You should then be able to establish an IP
> > connection direct from the PC, through the first 400 to the second one.
> >
> > ...Neil
> >
> > "DeLong, Eric" <EDeLong@Sallybeauty.com>
> > Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > 2001/05/03 11:01
> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
> >
> >         To:     "'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        RE: Network Pasthru
> >
> > Marty and Roger,
> >
> > I don't think you'll have any luck with this. TCP/IP connections are point
> > to point only, and as such, you'd need an IP address at the AS400 end to
> > talk to the Express client. Even layering the protocols would require the
> > AS400 to handle the TCP/IP communications. Express client emulates 5250
> > with
> > the TN5250 protocol, which is a variation of Telnet, which is TCP/IP
> > based.
> > It will not talk to APPC. Sorry.
> >
> > Eric DeLong
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Urbanek, Marty [mailto:Marty_Urbanek@stercomm.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:56 AM
> > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > Subject: RE: Network Pasthru
> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > I am not familiar with using CA over twinax. If I understand what you're
> > saying, your client's current connection from PC to V4R4 via twinax is
> > SNA,
> > therefore the APPN connection between the two 400s allows them to get a
> > signon screen on V3R2 box without doing STRPASTHR. You would like to be
> > able
> > to continue to do this (without STRPASTHR) after the conversion to CAE and
> > TCP/IP. The V3R2 box has no LAN connection, only SDLC to the V4R4 box.
> >
> > The only thing I can think of is it might be possible to do what you want
> > with Anynet. If you were to configure Anynet between the 400s, it could
> > encapsulate the TCP/IP traffic in SNA and pass it over the SDLC line. If
> > the
> > TCP/IP routing were set up appropriately on the V4R4 box, perhaps you
> > could
> > set up a CAE session with the IP address of the V3R2 box and the V4R4 box
> > could route the TCP/IP traffic. You might also want to read about IP
> > Forwarding, because I think that would play a part. I am only speculating
> > about all this. Maybe someone with Anynet experience could comment on
> > whether this would work.
> >
> > -Marty
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:43:58 -0500
> > From: "Roger Vicker, CCP" <rvicker@vicker.com>
> > Subject: Network Pasthru
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I will be moving a client from twinax and Client Access (V3R2M0) to CA
> > Express (V4R4M0) in the near future. Right now with twinax they
> > connect to two different i400s. The i400s are connected together with
> > SDLC only. The connection specifies the second system as APPN so when
> > the connection is requested it goes to the first system and it passes
> > the connection to the second. Can CAE be configured to pass through
> > one i400 via TCP and connect to the second one via SDLC or will they
> > have to actually signon to the first and STRPASTHR to the second one?
> > The first system is at V4R4M0 and the second is at V3R2M0 (I know, but
> > is for history data in an application that would have cost a mint to
> > move the license to a RISC model).
> >
> > Basically from:
> > PC (CA)----Twinax----i400----SDLC----AS400
> > to:
> > PC (CAE)----Ethernet/TCP----i400----SDLC----AS400
> >
> > If this can be done without STRPASTHR please point me to the books as
> > my searches have been frustrated so far.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Roger Vicker, CCP
> >
>
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