RE: Backup Policy -- MIDRANGE-L

I actually have this poster as a PDF.  I don't remember where I got it 
from.  I searched the IBM sigh to no avail.

I could send - or would someone like to post to a site??



Bryan Dietz









"Phil" <sublime78ska@yahoo.com>
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When I upgraded to V4R5 IBM included a poster entitled something like "Are
you saving everything" or "Are you saving the right stuff" (don't remember
exactly).  It included every save option available, listed what it saved,
and I think the corresponding restore command.

Disaster recovery is much more than saving the right stuff.  For me it's
usually been CYA because if a disaster did occur then someone is going to
get stuck holding the bag and a disaster recovery plan approved by top
management is a good way to isolate you from being that someone.  Offsite
tape storage, physical security, etc.

I have experienced simultaneous multiple disk crashes (which made raid-5
useless) and I was able to recover fully with a savsys tape and the 
nightly
backup savlib/savobj tapes.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com 
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of D.BALE@handleman.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Backup Policy

I have never given SAVSTG serious consideration.  I have only heard 
negative
opinions about it compared to doing a SAVE 21.  How is a SAVSTG more
complete
for D.R. than SAVE 21?  Are there certain scenarios where SAVSTG has
disctinct
advantages over SAVE 21?  Perhaps when you know you *will*, and not just
*if*,
restore the entire contents on a "scratched" set of DASD?

If you restore to a different box, how well-matched does the hardware have
to
be to the source box?  (You mentioned disk config.)

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

-------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
For a complete disaster recovery (some restrictions on the disk config on
the system config you restore on) run a SAVSTG.

Neil Palmer      DPS Data Processing Services Canada Ltd.
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D.BALE@handleman.com
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2001/04/24 18:36
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Dang.  I knew I should'a qualified that.  Well, who cares about the bean
counters, anyway, eh?  <g>

What do you do about the contents of >*JOBQs, *USRQs, *DTAQs, *MSGQs etc
???

How about the jobs on the job scheduler?

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

-------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
> A "SAVE 21" is the best you can do for backing up the AS/400.  It gets
> *everything*.  If all your DASD suffered a meltdown, your "SAVE 21"
backup
 and
> your MULIC tape/CD puts you back in business.

*Almost* everything.  The contents of Queues are *NOT* Saved.  Restore
from these tapes and those )^)(*^%% accountants will NOT have all the
reports they have been saving out there for months and months. Also
*JOBQs, *USRQs, *DTAQs, *MSGQs etc will come back MT.

If you really want the contents of these things to be saved you must put
those contents somplace else (such as in a DB file.)

  - Larry

D.BALE@handleman.com wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> (Disaster Recovery is obviously much more complicated than that, but
this
 was
> specifically answering the "backup policy" question.)
>
> Dan Bale
> IT - AS/400
> Handleman Company
> 248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
> D.Bale@Handleman.com

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