• Subject: Re: IPL source: ##MACH#A - Uh oh
  • From: D.BALE@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:56:00 -0400

>IPLing from A means it loads the OS which includes all the Permanently
>applied PTFS, but none of the Temporary applied PTFs.

What if there are no Permanently Applied cume PTFs?  Others have mentioned the
Superseded cume PTFs listed mean that they were once applied, but in the
absence of a Permanently Applied cume, it is my thinking that, when the cume
that is currently "Temporarily Applied" was installed, that process threw in
all of the superseded cume PTFs as a reference.  I have another box that shows:
  PTF
  ID       Status
  TL98314  Temporarily applied
  TL98069  Superseded
  TL97343  Permanently applied
  TL97252  Superseded
  TL97161  Superseded
  TL97105  Superseded
  TL97056  Superseded
  etc.

Given what I've been told about the previous AS/400 sys admin-type activities
in this organization, I would bet any amount of money that not all of the
superseded cumes were ever loaded.

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

-------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
Your assumption is not totally correct.

IPLing from A means it loads the OS which includes all the Permanently applied
PTFS, but none of the Temporary applied PTFs.

IPLing from B loads the OS with the permanent PTFS, but also loads the
temporarily applied PTFS.

I had this same situation happen to me once, where normally we IPLed from the
B side, but somehow it got switched over to the A side.  I switched it back to
the B side the next time I reIPLed, ran for a couple weeks, then went through
and permanently applied all the PTFs.

It is suggested that you permanently apply the current temporary applied PTFs
before you load a CUM tape.

So, yes, you should re-IPL to the B side and let it run a couple weeks, then
permanently apply the current PTFs before applying the CUM tape.

Regards,

Jim Langston


Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:09:00 -0400
From: D.BALE@handleman.com
Subject: IPL source: ##MACH#A - Uh oh!

After creating my original post on the cume & group PTFs, I came across an
interesting (?) situation on our V3R2 development box.

DSPPTF shows:
Product ID  . . . . . . :   5763999
IPL source  . . . . . . :   ##MACH#A
Release . . . . . . . . :   V3R2M0

Type options, press Enter.
  5=Display PTF details   6=Print cover letter   8=Display cover

     PTF                                    IPL
Opt  ID       Status                        Action
 _   TL98139  Temporarily applied           None
 _   TL98048  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97322  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97231  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97126  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97063  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97014  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96317  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96282  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96233  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96219  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96191  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96165  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96144  Superseded                    None
 _   RE97230  Permanently applied           None
 _   RE96102  Permanently applied           None
 _   MF19696  Save file only                None
 _   MF18809  Temporarily applied           None
etc....

Note that the last IPL source shows ##MACH#A.  If I interpret correctly that
the TL* entries are the cume PTFs, would it not appear that this box is
currently running on a totally non-cume'd bare V3R2 OS?  No one here has any
idea how long this box has been running in ##MACH#A; most likely since cume
98139 was applied.

I suppose I should IPL to ##MACH#B and run that for a week or so before
installing the latest/last cume (subject to the question of whether I should
even bother - see last post).

Again, all useful advice solicited.

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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