• Subject: Re: MIDRANGE-L Digest V4 #318
  • From: Jim Langston <jimlangston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:46:42 -0700
  • Organization: Pacer International

Your assumption is not totally correct.

IPLing from A means it loads the OS which includes all the Permanently applied
PTFS, but none of the Temporary applied PTFs.

IPLing from B loads the OS with the permanent PTFS, but also loads the 
temporarily applied PTFS.

I had this same situation happen to me once, where normally we IPLed from the
B side, but somehow it got switched over to the A side.  I switched it back to
the B side the next time I reIPLed, ran for a couple weeks, then went through
and permanently applied all the PTFs.

It is suggested that you permanently apply the current temporary applied PTFs
before you load a CUM tape.

So, yes, you should re-IPL to the B side and let it run a couple weeks, then
permanently apply the current PTFs before applying the CUM tape.


Jim Langston

Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:09:00 -0400
From: D.BALE@handleman.com
Subject: IPL source: ##MACH#A - Uh oh!

After creating my original post on the cume & group PTFs, I came across an
interesting (?) situation on our V3R2 development box.

DSPPTF shows:
Product ID  . . . . . . :   5763999
IPL source  . . . . . . :   ##MACH#A
Release . . . . . . . . :   V3R2M0

Type options, press Enter.
  5=Display PTF details   6=Print cover letter   8=Display cover

     PTF                                    IPL
Opt  ID       Status                        Action
 _   TL98139  Temporarily applied           None
 _   TL98048  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97322  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97231  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97126  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97063  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97014  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96317  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96282  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96233  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96219  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96191  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96165  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96144  Superseded                    None
 _   RE97230  Permanently applied           None
 _   RE96102  Permanently applied           None
 _   MF19696  Save file only                None
 _   MF18809  Temporarily applied           None

Note that the last IPL source shows ##MACH#A.  If I interpret correctly that
the TL* entries are the cume PTFs, would it not appear that this box is
currently running on a totally non-cume'd bare V3R2 OS?  No one here has any
idea how long this box has been running in ##MACH#A; most likely since cume
98139 was applied.

I suppose I should IPL to ##MACH#B and run that for a week or so before
installing the latest/last cume (subject to the question of whether I should
even bother - see last post).

Again, all useful advice solicited.

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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