Re: Reloading OS/400 on 9402 mod. 200

Hello "G.",
I have exactly the same machine left over to me and did IPL from D
with my V3R2 tapes to recover from unknown QSECOFR password,
I had no problems at all although I added a disk and a tokenring card
to the configuration.
As far as I know, there were mulic (or fulic) needed for the rack-type
models back in the days of V2, some early 310 machines had them, too.
But with V3R2 the OS is completely on that distribution tape.

HTH, greetings from germany, Philipp Rusch

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"G." schrieb:

> Hello all,
>
> I have saved an old type 9402 mod. 200 from destruction: I've found it
> abandoned and semi-opened, full of dust and debris, in the building
> that until five months ago housed a parcel company here where I live.
> Processor model is 2030, there are 24 MB of RAM and 2 GB of DASD,
> OS/400 is V3R1. I am a RPG programmer ad want to use it as a test
> machine and to improve my skills.
>
> Now it is in my room, clean and in working condition, but I need to
> reload OS/400 because the one which is currently on disk was badly
> damaged by previous owners: important parts of the system are missing,
> many useful commands such as WRKACTJOB are no more present on the
> system while others, for example PWRDWNSYS, sometimes hang with some
> CPF. I've discovered that they used it as storage for old no more
> useful data, saved only to fulfill law requirements, having another
> machine for main operations, and as they needed more and more room for
> their SAVFs, they deleted everything not useful to them (ASP was 97.8
> % full when I recovered this system).
>
> The question is: having V3R2 installation tapes, how could I reload
> them into my system? My original idea was to IPL from tape and do
> complete DASD initialization by choosing funtion 24 from control
> panel, then do a fresh complete install of VLIC and OS/400 from tape,
> but I was stopped by a colleague of mine telling me that FULIC tape
> must be copied to disk and is necessary to complete the process on
> CISC machines. Browsing lots of pages and asking lots of people for a
> solution for this problem, I've read that FULIC tape is NOT needed to
> reload OS/400 into machines with 2030 processor because those are
> "base" systems where FULIC tape is not needed, being all the necessary
> code inside VLIC, while for more powerful ones such as those mounting
> 2031 and 2032 processors, an additional FULIC tape is needed to
> interface VLIC with extended processor functions. Is this true? This
> is fundamental for me! I need to know if initializing disks will kill
> my system or not! I cannot do an upgrade from V3R1 to V3R2 since the
> latter VLIC is bigger than V3R1 one and will not fit on it's reserved
> space. To increase VLIC reserved space in order to make room for
> bigger V3R2 VLIC I have to load a pre-upgrade PTF which is impossibile
> to obtain a copy of and, more of this, there is no more APYPTF command
> on the system!
>
> Looking for an answer to my FULIC question I've found another problem:
> the system password (that's not QSECOFR one). It is not very clear
> neither in IBM manuals in which cases a request to enter a new system
> password will come up. They only say that "A new system password is
> required for each model change or for conditions that indicate
> probable change of ownership" (from SC41-3120-02) and my question is:
> initializing disks or adding/changing a disk or tape drive is one of
> those conditions that triggers the system password request? I've
> joined a retrocomputing group and they could give me two more disks to
> increase disk space and another tape unit for my system to be able to
> use DUPTAP command, but I'm afraid of installing them...  would this
> trigger on the password request?
>
> Thank you very much for any answer you could give me and excuse me if
> my english is not so clear: it is not my usual language! Sorry for the
> long message!
>
> G.
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