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I want to complain, too! Yes, I agree that IBM's marketing of the AS/400 has always been a flop. Rather than selling the box on the proven merits that have endeared it to its traditional customer base, they keep that message secret and instead try to sell it against PCs and Unix servers who's customers are not even looking for an alternative, especially an alternative that is slower, more expensive, and based on proprietary architecture. I also agree that IBM makes it terribly difficult and time consuming to buy their hardware, their software, and their services. Many a day my neighbors at work are treated to me slamming down the phone in a fit of curses after I finish speaking with someone at IBM who has no idea what I am talking about even though they are listed as the contact point for questions. This is frequently in response to an email from IBM in which they have unneccesarily repackaged and further complicated one of their offerings "to serve me better". In fairness, they usually don't say that it is "to serve me better" - they usually give no reason and it is quite obvious that it is only to "charge me more". I have spent 18 years working on various IBM hardware and software from POS terminals to mainframes and they have some great products and services, but you really have to be persistent to get what you need. In my old mainframe days it was the IBM SE that helped you navigate their rocky waters, but apparently SE support for midrange ended about the time I started working on them. Just my great sense of timing. ;-) What I really want to complain about is developer support. How does IBM expect this box to become popular when they make it virtually impossible for someone to start out developing for it? With a $1000 PC or two and a $2500 MSDN subscription, I can be developing for M$, armed with every tool, compiler, and bloated product that Bill Gates can ship. For even less money, I can do Linux and open source. But after years of IBM trying to address this issue, I'm still looking at $10,000 for a small iSeries box and then at least $1200 for each compiler and tool. Not to mention OS/400. And don't forget the monthly support fees. But don't worry, I can get a partnership deal with a 1% lease for all that stuff - just jump through all IBM's hoops and make lots of legal and marketing commitments that one cannot possibly make as an independent upstart. If I can't get going on this platform that I am already sold on, what's the chance of attracting some enthusiastic young college student? It is kind of like credit - the people who can get it are the people who don't need it. OK. Enough whining. That week of list deprivation had me all backed up. I feel better now. Thanks. - Marty +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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