• Subject: RE: Value of COMMON
  • From: Phil Groschwitz <sublime78ska@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:17:11 -0800 (PST)

Common's not expensive - the hotels are expensive.

In large, non-resort locations you can save a bundle
by staying in a motel 6, renting a car (which for a
week may be less expensive than one night in one of
the hotels), and driving a few miles as if you lived
there.  And you could also eat at McDonald's a couple
times.  

Phil


--- DanDaFourOOMan <danda400man@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the replies, Don & Janet!
> 
> Don, I never said it was the "company's *only*
> litmus
> test".  Obviously, I can (and will) extol how happy
> I'll be if I'm given this opportunity to learn.
> 
> Let's put it this way, should I go to my boss and
> ask
> for a paid week in Hawaii in the middle of February
> so
> I can recharge and remain, or become, happy?  No,
> that's what vacation time is for.
> 
> Here's what I expect to hear when I request a trip
> to
> COMMON: "Why?  What can you learn there THAT WILL OR
> COULD APPLY TO OUR COMPANY that you can't learn at a
> less expensive, closer conference, or via online, or
> via books, or via IBM education, etc., etc.?"  In my
> mind, these are valid questions.  I am asking for
> specifics that allow me to get past the "giddiness"
> or
> the excitement that would preclude me from giving
> the
> decision makers the best information that would
> persuade them to go along with this.  Would it be
> fair
> to suggest to them that, given our current situation
> (as described in previous posts), COMMON would give
> us
> the biggest bang for the buck?
> 
> Thanks for your advice!
> 
> (Oh, and Don, I finally figured out how you used
> memory, money, & sex in your reply - does this come
> naturally to you? <g>)
> 
> 
> --- "Schenck, Don" <Don.Schenck@pfizer.com> wrote:
> > Pardon me ... but if a company's only litmus test
> > for attending a conference
> > is ROI ... then that's NOT a company *I* would
> want
> > to work for ... good
> > grammar or not! <grin>
> > 
> > What's the ROI of, say, keeping a good employee
> > happy??
> > 
> > -- Don Schenck
> >    Schenck Technical Consulting
> >    DonS@SchenckTech.com / www.SchenckTech.com 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jkrueger@andrewscg.com
> > [mailto:jkrueger@andrewscg.com]
> > > Sent: January 18, 2001 12:27 AM
> > > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > > Subject: Re: Value of COMMON
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >> I went to the COMMON web site and printed
> > several web 
> > > pages ("What is
> > > COMMON", "ROI", & "Benefits of Membership"), but
> I
> > will need 
> > > more specific
> > > information as to how our company will benefit
> by
> > my 
> > > attending a COMMON
> > > conference.  Especially on the ROI.
> 
> 
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