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  • Subject: Re: QSYS objects on a full system save
  • From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:37:26 -0500


While I agree it mildly frightens me we run a RCLSTG on all of our 400's
prior to a full system save except our development machine.  For some
reason the RCLSTG takes an inordinate amount of time on our development
machine.  Our development machine is an 820-23A2.

Running the RCLSTG has cleared up many a save.

Here is a table of how long the RCLSTG takes in our shop:
System    Date of     Length of  Length of  Length of  Length of  Length of
Length of  Length of   Total
Name      Downtime    RCLDLO     RGZDLO     RCLSTG     SAVSYS     NONSYS
SAVDLO     SAV of IFS  Length
40S-2111  2000-11-17                             39       1:19       2:00
2:15      6:14
720-206A  2000-11-17                             45         13         40
1           4      1:45
730-2C6E  2000-11-17        8          8       4:29         28       2:50
5          13      8:24
830-23D1  2000-11-17        1                    41          3       7:20
48     15:40
820-23A2  2000-11-17      --All Rcl's were skipped--        15       5:08
16        1:13         -
720-206F  2000-11-17        4         10       1:57         12       1:07
6           7      3:44

But using the handy data area:
Data area . . . . . . . :   QRCLSTG
  Library . . . . . . . :     QUSRSYS
Type  . . . . . . . . . :   *CHAR
Length  . . . . . . . . :   200
Text  . . . . . . . . . :   Information from RCLSTG

           Value
Offset      *...+....1....+....2....+....3....+....4....+....5
    0      '1000421   172721                                  '
   50      '1000422   105640                                  '
  100      'V4R4M0    GDISYS    102181M                       '
  150      '                                                  '

Looks like 17.5 hours for the 820-23A2


System    Tape     Disk              Primary
Name      Drive    Size              Usage
40S-2111  2.5GB    11.8G at 81%      Runs the boss's Notes as a test
machine - only use.
720-206A  25GB     29G at 43%        Does all EDI, FTP, etc
730-2C6E  3590     160.7G at 63%     Runs HUGE number of BPCS databases,
payroll, accounting
                                     Percent CPU 7.8%.  Upgrade sitting in
computer room waiting
                                     for next downtime.  We don't mess
around with this one.
                                     901 user profiles with previous sign
on date 01-Oct or greater
                                     544 user profiles with previous sign
on date 05-Dec or greater
830-23D1  3590     ASP1:133G at57.7% Domino server for 800+ users.  Mail
and many notes databases.
                   ASP2:327G at97%   ADSTAR PC backup stored in QSYS
library file system.
820-23A2  3570     161.6G at 75%     Development machine - Domino test with
only me as a user.
                                     Gee that IFS is big, I better clean
out my mail file.
                                     Nah, it's only 958MB.
720-206F  25GB     26.9G at 74%      A couple copies of BPCS.

All running V4R5.  All had current cum's, group PTF's and what not applied
11/17 and will continue to do so every 8 weeks.

I don't have stats on our web 400 yet.  Site ain't live.

Rob Berendt

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Adam,

Have you tried running a Reclaim Storage.  This will attempt to identify
and fix any problems with damaged objects.  This command needs to be run
when the system is in a restricted state and can take several hours,
depending on your system.

To get an idea of how long it will run, you can display the QRCLSTG data
area.  If anyone has ever run the RCLSTG command on this system, this data
area will contain the start and stop times of the last time it was run.

HTH,

Todd Kidwell (Netstar)
AS/400 System Administrator
(313) 224-0578

>>> "Adam Driver" <drivera@starcity.com.au> 12/06/00 12:56AM >>>


Neil,

In the joblog I mentioned before (from the operators session on DSP01) the
next
message after the error message I mentioned before is CPF3772 : "SAVSYS
completed. One or more objects not saved".

As you said, this is probably not an object we use. We only do a full
system
save once a month, in the middle of the night. It has taken me three months
to
get the operators to actually sign off with *LIST so I can see the joblog.
I
only knew there was a problem because the full system save started
generating
CPA3708 : "CPF3772 received during SAVSYS command. (C G)" and asking the
operators for a response. In the three months this has been happening we've
had
no reported problems with OS/400.

I think I'll just keep an eye on this and go ahead with the upgrade in a
few
weeks as planned.

Many thanks for your help.


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