Re: QSYS objects on a full system save -- MIDRANGE-L

Adam,

Sorry I didn't keep the previous message. With a CPF3772 there will be a message before that in the joblog that names the object/s not saved.
Some possible causes for objects not saved with SAVSYS:

1) Objects previously marked as damaged by the system.
2) Often some configuration objects are not saved - especially if a line/controller/device is sitting in a FAILED status.

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Neil, In the joblog I mentioned before (from the operators session on DSP01) the next message after the error message I mentioned before is CPF3772 : "SAVSYS completed. One or more objects not saved". As you said, this is probably not an object we use. We only do a full system save once a month, in the middle of the night. It has taken me three months to get the operators to actually sign off with *LIST so I can see the joblog. I only knew there was a problem because the full system save started generating CPA3708 : "CPF3772 received during SAVSYS command. (C G)" and asking the operators for a response. In the three months this has been happening we've had no reported problems with OS/400. I think I'll just keep an eye on this and go ahead with the upgrade in a few weeks as planned. Many thanks for your help. Adam Driver Star City Sydney, Australia "Neil Palmer" <neilp@dpslink.com> on 06/12/2000 12:53:12 Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com cc: (bcc: Adam Driver/SC/StarCity) Subject: Re: QSYS objects on a full system save Adam, I wouldn't expect any problems if there was a missing or damaged system object in QSYS when you do a release upgrade. System objects will be replaced with those from the release upgrade anyway. As to whether you should reinstall the current release for this damaged object, I guess it comes down to what this object is and are you missing any function you use (OS/400 is so big the object could very well be one you would never use). If it isn't something you use (and I would guess it can't be important as you are running your system), then the fact your SAVSYS is missing it should be of little concern. How do you know the SAVSYS is missing an object - have you looked through the joblog from a SAVSYS ? Neil Palmer DPS Data Processing Services Canada Ltd. 50 Acadia Avenue, Ste.102 AS/400~~~~~ Markham, Ontario, Canada. ____________ ___ ~ Phone:(905) 474-4890 x303 |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||= Cell.:(416) 565-1682 x303 |__________|_|______|_|______) Fax: (905) 474-4898 oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\ mailto:NeilP@DPSlink.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.DPSlink.com iSeries 400 The Ultimate Business Server Neil, Thankyou. I wasn't planning a RSTOBJ for a damaged system object, I just knew the SAVSYS that runs at the beginning of a full system save was skipping an object in QSYS and I ws trying to find out what. I'm planning to upgrade to V4R4 in the next few weeks anyway. Would you think it wise to reinstall V4R3 first and make sure there is at least a decent SAVSYS of this level? Am I likely to run into problems with the upgrade if I have a damaged system object? Thanks Adam Driver Star City Sydney, Australia ______________________________________________________________________ This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any other person. Accordingly, Star City disclaims all responsibility and accepts no liability (including in negligence) for the consequences for any other person acting, or refraining from acting, on such information prior to the receipt by those persons of subsequent written confirmation. If you have received this document in error, please notify our Helpdesk immediately by telephone on 61 2 9657 9797. Please also destroy and delete the document from your computer. Copyright Star City Pty Ltd. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this document and its contents is strictly prohibited.

Adam,

I wouldn't expect any problems if there was a missing or damaged system object in QSYS when you do a release upgrade. System objects will be replaced with those from the release upgrade anyway.
As to whether you should reinstall the current release for this damaged object, I guess it comes down to what this object is and are you missing any function you use (OS/400 is so big the object could very well be one you would never use). If it isn't something you use (and I would guess it can't be important as you are running your system), then the fact your SAVSYS is missing it should be of little concern.

How do you know the SAVSYS is missing an object - have you looked through the joblog from a SAVSYS ?

Neil Palmer DPS Data Processing Services Canada Ltd.
50 Acadia Avenue, Ste.102 AS/400~~~~~
Markham, Ontario, Canada. ____________ ___ ~
Phone:(905) 474-4890 x303 |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||=
Cell.:(416) 565-1682 x303 |__________|_|______|_|______)
Fax: (905) 474-4898 oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\
mailto:NeilP@DPSlink.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.DPSlink.com iSeries 400 The Ultimate Business Server

Neil, Thankyou. I wasn't planning a RSTOBJ for a damaged system object, I just knew the SAVSYS that runs at the beginning of a full system save was skipping an object in QSYS and I ws trying to find out what. I'm planning to upgrade to V4R4 in the next few weeks anyway. Would you think it wise to reinstall V4R3 first and make sure there is at least a decent SAVSYS of this level? Am I likely to run into problems with the upgrade if I have a damaged system object? Thanks Adam Driver Star City Sydney, Australia