RE: INCREDIBLE - what am I missing here... ??? !!! -- MIDRANGE-L

Yes well, Linux, OK. Pffffftwahahaha! What colour is the sky in your world.
Any properly setup 400 is virtually unhackable. The only way you could
possibly get in cold (by cold I mean without getting the sysadmin drunk in a
bar and getting a password out of him) is a) If security has not been setup
properly (QSRV still active) or b)The old PC Support exploit which has now
been closed.

But don't believe me. Forrester group says it's the most secure machine.
Gartner says it's the most reliable. The As/400 goes way beyond DoD Orange
Book security. Yes, you can tighten Linux up to an impressive degree, but I
would make an educated guess here and say that 90% of Linux machines are not
set up with impressive security. 90% of AS/400's are. At least with Linux
you can *find* the password file, any ideas on where it is on the 400?

Alistair

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: 27 September 2000 11:27
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE - what am I missing here... ??? !!!


In article <CCE4573B7570D411874300508B8E04CC17604C@mailsrvnew.irfm.org>,
Chris Bipes <chris.bipes@cross-check.com> writes
>SECURITY & RELIABLITY!

[Linux stuff snipped]

Get out of here - Linux is as secure and reliable as an AS/400 -
my intranet site is on a 8 year old 486/66 and has never failed
in two years, despite handling 1000 + hits a day.

Because it's open source, you can secure it as solid as anything you
want - and I wouldn't take bets on your AS/400 security. I was
challenged to hack one of ours and walked right in. Don't believe
the propaganda - put up a server and try it (it costs nothing but time).

It's only M$ you can't secure - because you can't see the code, and
because it's designed as a single user system and then forced to be a
networked one, so the default is for everything to be open to use and
available - because that is what a single user system would expect.

M$ are getting there, but the mindset is still single user in most
things.
--
Steve
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