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And how do you know they are using net.data? Or is this just your way of saying that CGI programming in general is a performance dog? Because isn't that all that net.data is? bvstone@taylorcorp.com 07/31/00 02:18 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet cc: Subject: RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too? I agree it's easy, but it's slow. Even on our 720 where regular eRPG programs run lightning fast, the AS/400 tasks menus just drags... on... and on... Now, if I had a command, say CRTSRVINS (Create Server Instance) that would be all I would need to stay out of that AS/400 tasks menu. Or, if they simply got rid of that Net.Slow (sorry, no harm meant) and used eRPG it may work a lot faster. But it's still not going to be as fast as command line. I can already create a config by simply copying a member, so that part is figured out. For editing configs, I agree that for big changes green screen is slow (it's the interface, if it was SEU, it would be fine) but the web pages are even slower to move around, make a couple changes, etc. I usually FTP the config members to my PC, change, then upload. I know there's an API out there somewhere to create a server instance. I'll find it one day and make a command. :) Brad -----Original Message----- From: Pascal Bellerose [mailto:pascal.bellerose@progisys.com] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 12:59 PM To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' Subject: RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too? Joel, try using the port 2001 to access the HTTP administration server instance, it's all done from there. Believe me, it'S an easy thing doing it from there.. you have it all and more... Pascal Bellerose Programmeur-analyste / Software developer pascal.bellerose@progisys.com PROGISYS inc. T7l7phone / Telephone : (418) 871-4880 T7l7copieur / Fax : (418) 871-0486 Site internet / Website : www.PROGISYS.com Courriel / E-mail : progisys@progisys.com -----Message d'origine----- De : Joel Fritz [ mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com <mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com> ] Envoy7 : lundi 31 juillet 2000 12:18 ? : 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' Objet : RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too? Have you tried using the administration software for the HTTP server from Ops Nav? I believe it's written in Java. The screens are very nice, but I generally do everything on a green screen because I'm too impatient. > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Coulter [ mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au <mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au> ] > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:53 PM > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > Subject: Re: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too? > > > > Hello Booth, > > You wrote: > >Using Ops Navigator for ordinary tasks is discouragingly > slow. The time > >it takes to expand the tree to the desired place is way too long, > > You can guess my opinion on OpsNav simply due to the fact > that it ONLY runs on Windoze > -- who from Rochester is up whom in Redmond and not paying! > It should be written in > Java -- or are IBM finding the Java mantra easier to preach > than follow? > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <TITLE>RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>I agree it's easy, but it's slow. Even on our 720 where regular eRPG programs run lightning fast, the AS/400 tasks menus just drags... on... and on...</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>Now, if I had a command, say CRTSRVINS (Create Server Instance) that would be all I would need to stay out of that AS/400 tasks menu. Or, if they simply got rid of that Net.Slow (sorry, no harm meant) and used eRPG it may work a lot faster. But it's still not going to be as fast as command line.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>I can already create a config by simply copying a member, so that part is figured out. For editing configs, I agree that for big changes green screen is slow (it's the interface, if it was SEU, it would be fine) but the web pages are even slower to move around, make a couple changes, etc. I usually FTP the config members to my PC, change, then upload.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>I know there's an API out there somewhere to create a server instance. I'll find it one day and make a command. :)</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>Brad</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pascal Bellerose [mailto:pascal.bellerose@progisys.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 31, 2000 12:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <P><FONT size=2>Joel, try using the port 2001 to access the HTTP administration server instance, it's all done from there. Believe me, it'S an easy thing doing it from there.. you have it all and more... </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>Pascal Bellerose </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Programmeur-analyste / Software developer </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>pascal.bellerose@progisys.com </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>PROGISYS inc. </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Tlphone / Telephone : (418) 871-4880 </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Tlcopieur / Fax : (418) 871-0486 </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Site internet / Website : www.PROGISYS.com </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Courriel / E-mail : progisys@progisys.com </FONT></P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>-----Message d'origine-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>De : Joel Fritz [<A href="mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com">mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Envoy : lundi 31 juillet 2000 12:18</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> : 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Objet : RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?</FONT> </P><BR> <P><FONT size=2>Have you tried using the administration software for the HTTP server from</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Ops Nav? I believe it's written in Java. The screens are very nice, but I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>generally do everything on a green screen because I'm too impatient.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> From: Simon Coulter [<A href="mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au">mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:53 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Subject: Re: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> Hello Booth,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> You wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> >Using Ops Navigator for ordinary tasks is discouragingly </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> slow. The time</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> >it takes to expand the tree to the desired place is way too long, </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> You can guess my opinion on OpsNav simply due to the fact </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> that it ONLY runs on Windoze </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> -- who from Rochester is up whom in Redmond and not paying! </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> It should be written in </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> Java -- or are IBM finding the Java mantra easier to preach </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> than follow?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>+---</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>| This is the Midrange System Mailing List!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>| To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>| To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>| To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>| Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>+---</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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