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  • Subject: RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?
  • From: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:17:48 -0500

And how do you know they are using net.data?  Or is this just your way 
of saying that CGI programming in general is a performance dog?  Because 
isn't that all that net.data is?




        bvstone@taylorcorp.com
        07/31/00 02:18 PM
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                 Subject: RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?

I agree it's easy, but it's slow.  Even on our 720 where regular eRPG
programs run lightning fast, the AS/400 tasks menus just drags... on... and
on...
 
Now, if I had a command, say CRTSRVINS (Create Server Instance) that would
be all I would need to stay out of that AS/400 tasks menu.  Or, if they
simply got rid of that Net.Slow (sorry, no harm meant) and used eRPG it may
work a lot faster.  But it's still not going to be as fast as command line.
 
I can already create a config by simply copying a member, so that part is
figured out.  For editing configs, I agree that for big changes green screen
is slow (it's the interface, if it was SEU, it would be fine) but the web
pages are even slower to move around, make a couple changes, etc.  I usually
FTP the config members to my PC, change, then upload.
 
I know there's an API out there somewhere to create a server instance.  I'll
find it one day and make a command.  :)
 
Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: Pascal Bellerose [mailto:pascal.bellerose@progisys.com]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 12:59 PM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?



Joel, try using the port 2001 to access the HTTP administration server
instance, it's all done from there.  Believe me, it'S an easy thing doing it
from there.. you have it all and more... 

Pascal Bellerose 
Programmeur-analyste / Software developer 
pascal.bellerose@progisys.com 

PROGISYS inc. 
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-----Message d'origine----- 
De : Joel Fritz [ mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com
<mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com> ] 
Envoy7 : lundi 31 juillet 2000 12:18 
? : 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' 
Objet : RE: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too? 


Have you tried using the administration software for the HTTP server from 
Ops Nav?  I believe it's written in Java.  The screens are very nice, but I 
generally do everything on a green screen because I'm too impatient. 

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Simon Coulter [ mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au
<mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au> ] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:53 PM 
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com 
> Subject: Re: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too? 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Booth, 
> 
> You wrote: 
> >Using Ops Navigator for ordinary tasks is discouragingly 
> slow.  The time 
> >it takes to expand the tree to the desired place is way too long, 
> 
> You can guess my opinion on OpsNav simply due to the fact 
> that it ONLY runs on Windoze 
> -- who from Rochester is up whom in Redmond and not paying!  
> It should be written in 
> Java -- or are IBM finding the Java mantra easier to preach 
> than follow? 
> 
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>I 
agree it's easy, but it's slow.&nbsp; Even on our 720 where regular eRPG 
programs run lightning fast, the AS/400 tasks menus just drags... on... and 
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>Now, 
if I had a command, say CRTSRVINS (Create Server Instance) that would be all I 
would need to stay out of that AS/400 tasks menu.&nbsp; Or, if they simply got 
rid of that Net.Slow (sorry, no harm meant) and used eRPG it may work a lot 
faster.&nbsp; But it's still not going to be as fast as command 
line.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=380063718-31072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>I can 
already create a config by simply copying a member, so that part is figured 
out.&nbsp; For editing configs, I agree that for big changes green screen is 
slow (it's the interface, if it was SEU, it would be fine) but the web pages 
are 
even slower to move around, make a couple changes, etc.&nbsp; I usually FTP the 
config members to my PC, change, then upload.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=380063718-31072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=380063718-31072000>I 
know 
there's an API out there somewhere to create a server instance.&nbsp; I'll find 
it one day and make a command.&nbsp; :)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=380063718-31072000>Brad</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pascal Bellerose 
  [mailto:pascal.bellerose@progisys.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 31, 2000 
  12:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Is 
Ops 
  Navigator slow for others too?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <P><FONT size=2>Joel, try using the port 2001 to access the HTTP 
  administration server instance, it's all done from there.&nbsp; Believe me, 
  it'S an easy thing doing it from there.. you have it all and more... 
  </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Pascal Bellerose </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Programmeur-analyste 
  / Software developer </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>pascal.bellerose@progisys.com 
  </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>PROGISYS inc. </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Tlphone / Telephone 
  :&nbsp;&nbsp; (418) 871-4880 </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Tlcopieur / Fax 
  :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (418) 
  871-0486 </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Site internet / Website 
  :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.PROGISYS.com </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>Courriel / E-mail 
  
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  progisys@progisys.com </FONT></P><BR><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Message d'origine-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>De : Joel 
  Fritz [<A 
  
href="mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com">mailto:JFritz@sharperimage.com</A>]</FONT>
 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Envoy : lundi 31 juillet 2000 12:18</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2> : 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Objet : RE: Is 
  Ops Navigator slow for others too?</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>Have you tried using the administration software for the HTTP 
  server from</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Ops Nav?&nbsp; I believe it's written in 
  Java.&nbsp; The screens are very nice, but I</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>generally 
  do everything on a green screen because I'm too impatient.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
  From: Simon Coulter [<A 
  href="mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au">mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au</A>]</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:53 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>&gt; To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; Subject: 
  Re: Is Ops Navigator slow for others too?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>&gt; Hello Booth,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>&gt; You wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; &gt;Using Ops Navigator 
  for ordinary tasks is discouragingly </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; slow.&nbsp; 
  The time</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; &gt;it takes to expand the tree to the 
  desired place is way too long, </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>&gt; You can guess my opinion on OpsNav simply due to the fact 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; that it ONLY runs on Windoze </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>&gt; -- who from Rochester is up whom in Redmond and not paying!&nbsp; 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; It should be written in </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>&gt; Java -- or are IBM finding the Java mantra easier to preach 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; than follow?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
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