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From Al Macintyre This reminds me ... about 5-7 years ago when we were on S/36 moving to AS/36, I told management that it would be a real good idea if the process could somehow wean me off diskettes because: We had over 4,000 8" diskettes of stuff off-line in storage & in the last 2 years alone we had doubled our supply & the cost of these, even buying them second hand from other companies weaning themselves off diskettes, was seriously escalating; Off site backup in magazines in carry cases was approaching file cabinet size & last winter when one of us slipped on ice & fell into snow drift, 50 diskettes were ruined ... they are extremely fragile; Running a decent backup takes hours of juggling magazines & we really need to buy some more because ... & I demonstrated what's involved in replacing diskettes in them because not enough ... the time I doing this I could be programming new improvements for end users; The cost of diskette support on total box & the number of times the diskette drive has gone down for serious time compared to service calls on our printers & other things. Management enthusiastically went along with this deal ... the clincher was that our hardware support people said that they had copies of earlier IBM boxes in storage, so that if we needed to load stuff off of 5 year old diskettes, we could copy that to tape, for a fee, at their facility. I was highly annoyed that the life time retention of tape media did not seem to measure up to that of diskettes, but no longer so hurting for DASD that I had to store source code not currently being modified off line, so less thrashing of stuff on & off. A few years later we went to dual tape drives, adding 8 mm (7 gig) to join QIC (2 gig) originally on the box ... our M36 could ONLY access the QIC, while OS/400 could access either. We occasionally had visiting AS/400 neighbors copying stuff between the 2 mediums on our box. Almost everything was on 8 mm when we switched to model 170 a year ago, and same scenario ... I do not know the real choices, but hardware sales & management ended up with a box that used MLRI (11 gig) which could read QIC (with high rate of failure) but all those 8 mm tapes were now in the same boat as the 8 inch diskettes ... if we need an on-line copy of something that got moved off-line, we can work out a deal with our hardware supplier. My point is that as archives develop on a particular media, and conversion policies generally focus on the here & now reality on-line, there is growing historical media that will not load directly to current box & will it be clearly understood by next MIS staff that the data has value & there are choices for getting at it if we really need it & understand the software issues since some of it is for packages whose licenses we have let expire. I guess I just talked myself into reviewing our documentation on this whole topic. > At my last job we were a company with worldwide operations. > the GL folks would run trials for all of these companies that generated > THOUSANDS of spool files that were THOUSANDS of pages long. > I investigated several spool file save utilities and the one I picked > paid for itself in less than 2 months. What had been happening > was that the Financial folks insisted that they needed all of this stuff saved > in case they were audited but they didn't want to print it out. I could see > that because it took PHYSICAL room, but at the same time > it was taking up DISK room. > At the time we had well over a years worth of this stuff, one Year/Month > outq for each month. I started offloading this stuff to tape and knocked > over 25% off of our storage and this was on a fairly large system for then > (5 or 6 years ago). It kept us from having to add disk ! Al Macintyre ©¿© MIS Manager Programmer & Computer Janitor of BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 running on AS/400 V4R3 http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical sub-assemblies +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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