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I have done extensive contract programming and solved the problem by stating in writing in my contract that: 1. Everything I develop is solely owned by the client. and 2. I retain a non-exclusive royalty free license to use whatever I developed in future jobs for other employers. 3. If I bring a product (ie: toolkits, etc.) then that is solely owned by me and my client has a non-exclusive royalty free license to use it but cannot sell it without my permission. Consider that I did not come to the job with zero skills (why would I be hired in the first place if that were so?) and that I will leave with those skills intact plus the ones I learn on the job. Jerry At 11:15 AM 5/23/2000 -0400, you wrote: >The past two employers had me sign a contract stating that anything I created was the property of the employer. In fact, I was 'asked' not to publish an article because they were afraid I'd give away some of 'my' code. >- Jo Ann >----- Forwarded by JoAnn Burelle/Bigy on 05/23/2000 11:13 AM ----- > > MIME:nathanma@haaga.com >05/23/2000 11:07 AM > > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com @ INTERNET > cc: (bcc: JoAnn Burelle/Bigy) > Subject: What are a programmer's rights to what he writes? > >Is it illegal for a programmer to use source code he was employed to write? >Is it unethical? For example, should a programmer be able show some of his >past source code to a prospective future employer? > >One of the people on this list express his opinion last week that it was >both illegal and unethical. > >My question is what rights do programmers have to their works? And, in your >opinion, what rights should a programmer have? > >Actually, I was forced to defend myself not long ago in Federal court in a >copyright case. So, I gained some strong feelings about this issue - as >well as a clearer understanding of the law. > >I feel this question is appropriate for the people on this list because it >affects so many of us. In asking, however, I have two fears. The first is >apathy - most of you have probably never needed to assert yourselves on this >issue. Second, some of you may feel uncomfortable sharing your opinion in a >public forum. For example, an employer who is highly dependent on a skilled >programmer may not want to risk offending his employee by asserting that the >employee should have no rights to his work. On the other hand, an employee >may not want to offend an employer, or may feel uncomfortable saying he >ought to have rights even though the law does not support that view. > Jerry Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976 Specializing in connecting PC's, Windows, MAC's, and LAN's to the AS/400 Representing Synapse, Apple, UDS, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, etc. (415) 457-3431; (415) 258-1658fax; jdraper@wco.com +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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