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Agreed. However, I think Bob's point was that companies like M$, Apple, Sun, and Oracle have people out in the public eye that are extremely passionate about their products. Do some searching on Ellison or McNealy and see what you find. It's amazing what coverage these guys are given on all facets of their products and their companies. Perhaps Dr. Frank could be that kind of AS/400 person. I think he already performs that function within existing AS/400 circles but as we have all agreed that is preaching to the choir. I personally think that the people who have responsibility for advertising the AS/400 (Malcolm Haines and Tom Jarosh) are doing all that they can. Now before you say "yeah but" let me explain. They are doing all they can that is within their control. These guys are spending money and hitting some key areas. They have done some very interesting things in raising awareness (LotusSphere for example. Prior to LS only 30% of the attendees knew that there was a DSD. Afterwards it was essentially 100%. Right now we don't know if that has resulted in increased market share but only time will tell.). And they are going to something similar to that at the Supply Chain Conference this week in Vegas. Supply Chain is an area that a year ago the AS/400 presence was essentially nill......now you have I2 (the 900 lb. gorilla in SCM) and IBM announcing that I2 has ported to the AS/400.....good stuff. While we may not agree with everything that they are doing (Malcolm, Tom, etc.) they aren't the enemy in this. For example, they have no control over what get's done on TV. It's Lou, his cohorts, and the image police at IBM. And you can write all the Dear Lou letters you want on the IBM web site....Lou will never see it......it will get intercepted and if it says AS/400 on it then it will be routed to Tom..................Personally, I'd love the chance to give the cookie man my 2 cents worth directly and will do as much as I can to see that done........... Michael Crump Ball-Foster Glass Container Co. |--------+-----------------------> | | Don | | | <dr2@cssas400| | | .com> | | | | | | 03/20/00 | | | 08:45 PM | | | Please | | | respond to | | | MIDRANGE-L | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >-------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: midrange-l@midrange.com | | cc: (bcc: Mike Crump/IS/Ball-Foster) | | Subject: Tipton Common Opener - PTF | | suggestion... | >-------------------------------------------------------| I'm reviewing Tipton's opener as I recall it in this 16k cache I call memory, so pls pardon any parity errors... I kind of wonder if his mentioning of Frank should be redirected to someone who's more responsible for the marketing effort (such that it is) of the product line. Surely we all know of Frank's successes are area of expertise, but at last check, "marketing" is someone else's responsibility. Should some of the comments for accounting be directed perhaps at a more culpable party? Don in DC +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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