Re: PTF's and Cum tapes, etc.

[Chuck Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Stuart !

I agree. I wasn't really recommending that strategy, it just was one of those
"thoughts" that hits one from time to time :-)

And being behind CAN be a problem when talking to IBM on problems...

Yep, on the order, that's why I asked her and checked with IBM TWICE and asked a
friend of mine who is an ex-CE and it IS correct and DID work. The PTF process 
is
VERY smart - again - eat your HEARTS out NT and Novell folks <BG>...

I got it all done fairly quickly Sunday and all is well. HUGE sigh of relief -
bring on the new year !

Chuck

Chuck

"Allen, Stuart" wrote:

> If you never change the oil in your car it may keep on running fine.  Of
> course one day your engine might sieze!
> Most of the fixes are stuff that are you probably will never come across -
> like "if you are using licenced programs a, b & c in a particular setup d,
> under circumstances e program f might fail".  However i'm of the school that
> thinks if a problem has been found, and fixed, its better to apply the fix
> just in case.
>
> I'm surprised that IBM recommend applying things in that order - I would
> have thought you should apply the group ptf's AFTER the cum - the group
> ptf's are refreshed more frequently, so could supercede a cum ptf.
>
> Regards,
> Stuart
>
> Stuart Allen
> European Systems Analyst
> Fellowes
>
> mailto:sallen@fellowes.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chuck Lewis [SMTP:clewis@iquest.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:37 AM
> > To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject:      PTF's and Cum tapes, etc.
> >
> > This may be a DUMB question but has anyone ever wondered why, if a
> > system is running fine with no problems, why the need for a cum tape ? I
> > know this sounds naive and I understand what they do, but I just found
> > out that my cohort (and former co-worker) had never put on a Cum tape
> > here (we have been up live on a 620 since January 1 of this year) and
> > (knock on wood) all is fine. I WILL be putting on the latest V4R1 Cum
> > tape this weekend along with Hiper and Y2K.
> >
> > A side note. IBM says to put the Y2K or Hiper PTF's on FIRST (doesn't
> > matter which one of these 2 is first) and then LASTLY put on the Cum
> > tape.
> >
> > To me it seems like you put the Cum tape on FIRST and then the other
> > ones overlay, replace and update that. Or is the Cum tape being last,
> > smart enough to not load PTF's that have been superseded by these other
> > loads ?
> >
> > TIA !
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > +---
> > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
> > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
> > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
> > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to
> > MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
> > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator:
> > david@midrange.com
> > +---
> +---
> | This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
> | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
> | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
> | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
> | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com
> +---

+---
| This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
| To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
| To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
| To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
| Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com
+---