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>> They now run on multiple platforms, most of them poorly except for the mainframe for which >> the programs were originally written. SAP was originally designed to run on AS/400's but IBM refused to help them and they ended having to go to UNIX. Now 10 years later, IBM is frantically trying to get SAP back with limited success. -----Original Message----- From: DAsmussen@aol.com [mailto:DAsmussen@aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 2:28 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: Who's going to call Hesheys? Wynn, In a message dated 10/31/99 1:06:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, wynn@praxis.net writes: > I am absolutely amazed that after 50+ years of computing, how nasty and > failure-prone these big software projects are. <<snip>> RANT MODE(*ON) I absolutely agree. I even made the comment at work last week that "after 50 years of trying to get a decent operating system, we are now trying to pretend that we don't have one". ERRRRRRR! All in the name of "openness". Said "openness" _STILL_ cannot be directly translated between machines without a "virtual machine" running. In the old days, we used to call this "emulation". "Virtual" just sounds so much more "open", doesn't it? I look at it as you "virtually" have a business system. Yes, C++ and its' ilk have their place -- that place is coding system level tasks and operating systems themselves, _NOT_ business applications. The reason that programming moved beyond Assembler in the first place was to allow more persons to code business applications without bringing the machine down when you made a mistake! JAVA shows promise but, unless the government mandates it at some point (which I _STRONGLY_ oppose), a truly "open" system will _NEVER_ be created. I would use the (overused) automobile analogy to refute open systems -- if everyone needed the same car, why are there subcompacts, compacts, coupes, sedans, luxury, trucks, and SUV's? Same with computers. Choose one for what you need, don't try to fit your needs into the cheapest thing available. In the Hershey case, project management wouldn't have helped. They probably had _EXCELLENT_ project management. Excellent project management that Hershey _CORPORATE_ management refused to listen to when they told them that the deadline wasn't going to be met. SAP AG, a German ERP vendor, is trying to be "all things to all people", just like "open software" -- they're failing miserably, especially in the retail sector. They now run on multiple platforms, most of them poorly except for the mainframe for which the programs were originally written. Two things need to happen in this world before IT fulfills its' promise: 1. Realize that "open" systems aren't going to happen, so get over it. 2. Quit penalizing IT personnel that give bad news, and respect their evaluations. The latter will save you money in the long run. RANT MODE(*OFF) I feel _MUCH_ better now :)... Dean Asmussen Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC USA E-mail: DAsmussen@aol.com "Experience is the name everybody gives mistakes." -- Elbert Hubbard +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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