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I opened this letter out of curiosity, nothing more, but found two concepts within the thread that I would like to comment on. Neither is concerned with translation, per se, but they're here, nonetheless. First - the phrase ". . . a company with IBM's resources . . . ." My wife and kids commonly employ the concept that big companies must be able to afford things more easily than small. Well, I'm a creature of the 90's, having had a 21 year career with Westinghouse before the corporation imploded. No, "White Westinghouse" is NOT THE Westinghouse - it is White Industries, who bought the Mansfield, Ohio appliance division in 1974 and apparently got the right to call the appliances "Westinghouse" in perpetuity. When I started with the company in 1973, it was with a 10 man (yeah, we had gender back then ;) ) group and I had to wait a couple of months before the boss could get approval to buy a $150 desk. If you subscribe to the idea that small companies are often better managed by owners who have a stake in results, then small companies may have more bucks to spend on what's important, since they're not wasting megabucks in political turf wars. Let's not get into arguments about econonmy of scale and purchasing power. Once upon a time Westinghouse was big enough that when I went to Intel school in 1973 _I_ was the guy from the _big_ outfit. Rant - rant ... anyway, the point is, IBM does NOT necessarily have the resources you're referring to, because in part, I suspect, their pension plan (not the new one, perhaps), gives a lot more to the employees than the plan of outfits like Intel, Compaq or Dell and IBM isn't a "direct marketer." Hey, David. If you're listening, feel free to relabel this thread, or whatever. > >> Are you saying that a company with IBM's resources was using "SEs working in > >> their spare time" to do translations?? So I agree with Mr. Paris on the following. IBM needs to save money, too. > >That is my understanding - yes. But IBM's level of resource is not really >relevant. They did it because it produced the best translations that money >could buy. They switched to professional translation services to _save_ money! Concerning IBM midrange tech manuals and the people who write them as mentioned below by Mr. Paris - I've been reading them as a full time midranger since 1980, not counting the S/360 COBOL and system error texts back in 1968. I have _always_ thought the midrange manuals were models of readability and style compared to IBM's "mainframe" stuff or any of the early PC manuals. So, I think that the great technical writers at IBM _are_ (or at least, _were_) in the midrange group. If anyone is watching, the preceding sentence is an embedded compliment to a group of people at IBM. I've earned my living for a long time based on what I read in those manuals. On the other hand, the two big texts on SQL, were apparently written by some database "purists". I find that the indexing sucks (technical term) in them and the explanations follow some sort of Backus-Naur form of cryptic definitions. > >I suspect that SEs were used part-time because anyone with the technical >knowledge to do the job would be bored to death doing it full time. A similar >situation applies to regular manuals. IBM has some great technical writers, but >they are (for the most part) not AS/400 literate. People with the AS/400 skills >would not be prepared to write manuals full time. Just my 2 cents. My buddy the retired English teacher says "Non gustibus disputandum est." Well, OK, that's Latin, but he still says it. I believe it means "There is no arguing matters of taste." +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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