Re: Thin Clients

        Roger

        After reading your breakdown(below) and the fact (Though unrelated
to Thin Clients)
        that you generally need a separate NT server for each
application(and maybe a couple of
        backup NT's to watch the ones doing the work).   

        I'm  really starting to get a handle on just how strongly NT was
designed as 
        a multi-user, mult-tasking, multi-application type system.  

        <<Note that Citrix recommends one processor for every 15-20 users!>>

        Hmm.  1processor for 15-20 users ?    What a great multi-user,
mult-tasking, 
        multi-application OS huh?   

        John Carr







        From:   Roger Pence@rp on 09/20/99 12:35 PM
        To:     MIDRANGE-L@MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@SMTP@EXCHCONNECT
        cc:      

        Subject:        Re: Thin Clients

        You guys have piqued my interest on thin client computing. Here are
some
        costs and planning guidelines for the Citrix product:

        Citrix MetaFrame (runs on Windows NT Server).
        Base server license + 15 users costs $6K
        25 users is an additional 4K

        Total license fee for Citrix MetaFrame and 40 clients = $10,000
(this is
        list and there is probably some price diddlying available).  You'll
also
        need to add the cost of the MetaFrame support/maintenance contract.

        This does not include the NT Server server license nor does it
include the
        cost of MS clients. There, you need a TSE client license and an NT
        Workstation TSE client license, per client. Depending on your needs,
you may
        also need a TSE BackOffice license.

        Here are Citrix's rule-of-thumb capacity planning tips:

        Any server with Pentium II 400 MHz CPU or greater.

        Approximately 32mb RAM per concurrent user with 64mb for the OS.

        Approximately 250mb hard disk space per concurent user with 500mb or
so for
        the OS and MetaFrame.

        1 processor - 15-20 users - 256-512mb memory
        2 processors 30-40 users - 512-1024 mb memory
        3 processors 45-60 users - 768-1536mb memory
        4 processors 60-80 users - 1-2 gb memory


        Note that Citrix recommends one processor for every 15-20 users!

        rp

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