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Ooooohhhh Hank, In a message dated 8/19/99 2:12:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HankHeath@aol.com writes: > Al exaggerates only slightly to make a point. However, the AS/400 as a brand > is losing clout - no doubt. However, the move may be to strengthen IBM as a > brand, instead. To those who worship the AS/400 religion (I was one once), > this is painful. However, the brand has run its course. It's time for IBM to > consolidate and take on the competition. Do Win-tel, Sun, HP rely upon brands > within their major category? Methinks that thou hast let slip the dogs of flame war with this one! Let me try and stop it before it starts. We had this argument _WAY_ back when IBM first started the somewhat hermaphroditic "e-business" campaign -- pushing all platforms in advertising yet offering no strengths for _any_ and providing even _more_ confusing advice depending upon which IBM office you contacted. I do not worship the AS/400 as a religion, but as the only customer-oriented box that the company produces. If, within the IBM family, you could choose your own OS, database, security system, connectivity, etc. with impunity, your point would be well taken. But you can't. If a small company could purchase any platform within the IBM line and receive the same service your argument would have merit, but they cannot. "Mom and Pop" cannot _afford_ an ES/9000. Nor can they afford the staff to support a NetFinity or RS/6000 box. To compare Win-Tel, Sun, and HP to IBM is to compare the Shrine Circus to Ringling Brothers, only worse. Shrine (at least as they present locally) has one ring, Ringling has three, and IBM has four (five if you count PC's, but everything in _that_ arena still sucks except for the ThinkPad). However, only one of IBM's rings can serve a customer from "cradle to grave" without great pain -- the AS/400. If you want to make a "religious" statement out of this, eleven years ago there were only _two_ religions -- pro- and anti-IBM. I was in the anti- crowd. IMO at the time, _everyone_ did _everything_ better than IBM when it came to computing. It continues to this day, in that most of the available clones are better than the PC's that IBM turns out (although IBM did _FINALLY_ figure out that it shouldn't take twenty minutes to check memory integrity). My anti-IBM sentiments changed when my platform of choice ceased production around the same time as the advent of the AS/400. The AS/400 had all of the hallmarks of my last platform: write once run anywhere, ease of maintenance, ease of use, easy to program. When I decided to retrain and studied available midrange platforms in depth, my considered alternatives (DEC, HP, Unisys) did not and _still_ do not offer these features. IMO (both then and now) the AS/400 remains a "best buy" from the customer standpoint, and that's all that matters. Now, as to your rather specious arguments as to "the AS/400 as a brand is losing clout" and "the brand has run its course", what the _HECK_ planet did _YOU_ wake up on this morning ;-)? Sales of AS/400's to _new_ clients in 1998 were both robust and unprecedented since the system's initial introduction, when IBM was constantly running the old M*A*S*H advertisements (as opposed to the somewhat spurious advertisements that Mr. Jarosh was able to exact from Armonk during 1998). Due to its unique operating system architecture, the AS/400 is able to incorporate all of IBM's latest technology along with the world's latest "hot" languages without upgrade on RISC systems. Every single major ERP vendor that wasn't already there has now ported to the AS/400. The AS/400 provides 64-bit technology _NOW_, without rewrite, while the world still waits for Merced, Windows 2K, and other "promised" 64-bit technologies that _WILL_ require rewrite. I'm sorry, but this "brand" has _NOT_ "run its course." Show me an entry level NetFinity, RS/6000, or ES/9000 that costs less in software, hardware and personnel requirements, is as scalable, and spouts a 99.97%uptime, and I may change my stance. Until then, quit writing obituaries for the AS/400 -- it appears that "the trades" finally have... JMHO, Dean Asmussen Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC USA E-mail: DAsmussen@aol.com "You must do the things you think you cannot do." -- Eleanor Roosevelt +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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