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  • Subject: Real world Java Scenario (was RE: IBM pushing Java)
  • From: "Stone, Brad V (PP)" <bvstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:01:32 -0600

Java gurus:  Please see scenario at bottom.


--snip--
> 
> The funny thing is that we're even having a debate over the merits of 
> modular programming.  If the computer science graduates are 
> surprised to 
> see our monolithic code, the experienced PC programmers we 
> hire to work on 
> the client/server GUI stuff are in shock.  They've never seen 
> anything like 
> it on any other platform.  

On the flip side, these PC guys are not used to writing or seeing programs
that actually run the guts of the busniess (at least the ones I've dealt
with).  They're used to setting up servers, e-mail packages and drawing
pretty pictures on a web page with a little script.  On the AS/400, the
database is top notch, and RPG was made for the database.  The AS/400 is
Application Programming heaven.  So, Java may work with everything (thanks
to the JVM mostly, a concept that will probably inspire many more similar
languages), but that does in no way make it the best solution.  

We're too insular, too isolated 
> from mainstream 
> computing.  What we're really debating here is the question 
> of how soon do 
> we in the midrange community want to utilise more modern programming 
> concepts in our work. 
> 

The concepts of Java are by no means new.  Modular an OO programming
concepts were around when I was in college (80s) and we were using Modula
II.

--snip--

Buck, I feel your pain.  I too go out of my way to stay on top of things.
With Java, though, it seems like the more I get into it, the more I feel
that it's not a suitable replacement for use with the AS/400.  That's
strictly my opinion.  I would much rather use Visual RPG (ASNA, not VA) if
we wanted pretty pictures in our system.

-----------------
Scenario JavaScenario = new Scenario():

try {
You've just created a Java app (with swing) that lets the user view order
status information.  you have 30 users you want to give the program to.

Questions QuestionsforJavaGuru = new Questions(4);
  
1. What are the steps to do this? 
2. What happens when you make a change to the java app? 
3. A new Version of java or swing comes out.  You want to use it.  What
then?
4. Now, add 10 more plants located in different locations througout the
united states with 30 users each.  How does this affect 1-3?

This is real world stuff that we all already know how to do with RPG.

Let's hear from the Java gurus on this one.  I'd be interested.
}
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