RE: CASE tools, anyone?

[Walden Leverich <walden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

What is the problem with having run-time objects? The run-time is not a
licensed product in the case of Synon (now Cool:2E by Sterling) so I don't
see why this is causing your client a problem. 

I do agree with your assessment of getting everybody in your shop on-board.
Cool:2E is model based development, as a result it works best when the
product "knows" about the entire database structure. However, I have
successfully used 2E in environments where 2E was used to write only a small
part of the system.

-Walden

-----Original Message-----
From: R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. [mailto:rbruceh@ibm.net]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 4:35 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: CASE tools, anyone?


Brian.Johnson@helpsystems.com wrote:

> Can anyone share their recommendation or experiences with CASE tools?

Jeez, what a shame, only 10 years too late...

just kidding.


Only experience that I have had with case tools is Synon.  Good product,
but:

a.  usually only one person in shop truely learns the tool.
2.  That person usually gets hired away by someone wanting to jump-start
their
Synon project.
III. Synon did involve some run-time objects that are *still* on one of my
client's systems.  They can't get rid of it without going back and
completely
re-writing the software that was developed in Synon to remove the run-time
stuff.

In a nut shell, they are stuck with it even though they no longer use the
Synon
product.

Unless you can get EVERYBODY in the shop on board, and then KEEP them there,
my
preference would be to stay away from them.

That being said, I really like and use ERWin for all the other stuff.  It is
expensive as far as database modelling tools go, but it is one of the very
few
that can actually deal with an AS/400 and DB2, both forward and reverse
engineering.  It only needs a good ODBC connection to the 400.

Again, imho, I would avoid the code generation part.

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R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. -- IBM Certified AS/400 Administrator

-- The sum of all human knowledge is a fixed constant.
    It's the population that keeps growing!


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