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Buck, The scenario you describe is one of two worlds. I do agree with you whenever I'm the "hired gun" and have a three fold job: 1) solve the problem at hand 2) comply to standards 3) expand their education. The hard part is when the person who has in-house control over a project is more interested in supporting/justifying the path that is being followed then they are in a balanced effort between short term results and long term gain. (at times that path was not even chosen in this decade or by the chief advocate .. go figure) Sigh. In this situation I take the same role as the Senate: "advise and consent". (and document choices/decisions up the gazoo!) The second, and my favorite, is where I am given objectives, shop standards and a free reign to create/solve. The objective is for the client/employer to have a problem solved (within budget), their staff has expanded exposure to solutions, the solution has longevity and I have yet to receive anything on a stone tablet. I guess it's the subtle difference between guidelines and rules. Maybe some of the discussion I've contributed to has to do with the position within the project. The best analogy that I can come up with is like having your home built. There are a myriad of job functions involved and I place myself as architect and prime contractor (usually). Along with providing solutions to the requester, there is the instilling of confidence in their choice of architect/prime. Once that nontechnical hurdle has been jumped, artistic freedom becomes available. And for me, that's the more rewarding side of the technical career coin. Although there is enough geek in me to get an internal "hooya" out of shaving some time out of a production run. :-) James W. Kilgore email@James-W-Kilgore.com Buck Calabro/commsoft wrote: > > > I know that I *hate* it when a customer tells me what code to write and > what files to create. It's very difficult to do a thorough job when the > client is reviewing your code unless the client is up-to-date in their > coding skills. > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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