RE: To all AS/400 Gurus, Lovers ........

Vuong,

You misinterpret his comments.  He's not being critical of those wishing to 
learn - as the comments were not directed at you.
He was merely trying to suggest better ways of learning the AS/400 as 
Midrange-L is not set up for teaching the AS/400 to those who don't know it.  
We all agree that training new people on the AS/400 is important, it's just 
that this isn't really the place to do it.

Try some of these links.  Some require (free) registration.  Many contains 
useful links to other sites:

http://www.midrange.com/
http://www.as400.ibm.com/
http://as400bks.rochester.IBM.com/
http://www.redbooks.IBM.com/
http://www.common.org/
http://www.news400.com/
http://www.midrangecomputing.com/
http://www.midrangesystems.com/
http://www.ignite400.org/
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/5581/
http://www.rpgiv.com/
http://www.ibmuser.com/


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-----Original Message-----
From:   Vuong Nguyen [SMTP:vuongtn2@hotmail.com]
Sent:   Wednesday, December 02, 1998 8:31 PM
To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: To all AS/400 Gurus, Lovers ........

>
>Vuong Nguyen wrote:
>> Since most of you exclaiming that AS/400 is a great machine (...)
>> Books, resources anything on the net, education, instructions ( ... )
>> What would be a good place for help and advise? ( ... )
>> ( ... ) I am only two weeks old with AS/400 ( ... )
>
>This topic of newbies raising tons of questions on a professional list
>was raised some time ago.
>
>You all agreed it's a loss of time to answer, nobody can achieve formal
>education on a net list. My point's the same, I won't answer.
>
>Still I wonder if someone could have a web page with updated resources
>for all newcomers. I can provide a list of AS/400 resources on the net 
(
>some 30 different URL's ) but it concerns only my domains of interest,
>that's not all.
>
>In fact, we must really give them a hand, they will become ... one of
>us. To reject them from the start is to reject a bit the system too.
>Isn't it a part of the marketing efforts we're talking so much about ?
>
>Shouldn't IBM take care of such a task ?
>


Seriously, if you are not helping then please do not criticize anyone 
who is willing to learn.

How do you would like people to treat you when you ask them for advise 
and help?

Could they assume that someone will eventually help you (like you 
assume) instead of giving them some tips or leads of where to start?

I need help and advise, not criticism or comment.  If no help provides 
then that is my lost.

I do appreciate helps from anyone who did give me some leads instead of 
criticisms.

Again, thank you!  Vuong.


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