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Re: BPCS on V4R3

  • Subject: Re: BPCS on V4R3
  • From: Chuck Lewis <CLEWIS@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:45:57 -0400
 
THAT'S wild ! I guess even ole Roger was more Customer oriented BACK THEN, eh ?

Rob Berendt wrote:

> Frankly I think the "purge" was long overdue.  There were a number of
> people there who no longer cared about customer concerns and wanted to
> push their own agendas.  We were the third customer BPCS ever had and
> Roger Covey wrote one of the modules on our System 34 over the weekend.
>
> CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET on 10/14/98 04:46:54 PM
> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> cc:
>
> Subject:        Re: BPCS on V4R3
>
> Interesting - where I WAS, can recount HORROR stories dealing with them. Not 
>to say that they were ALWAYS bad - if you could get to
> the GOOD people (HOPEFULLY they are still there after the "purge"...)
>
> Rob Berendt wrote:
>
> > I am not sure if we got the official blessing.  I don't know what
> > hoops we had to jump through to get things working.  I was not on
> > the team that actually did this.  SSA has always been good to us.
> > They've had to rush rewrites out to us in the past.  We were their
> > first customer that put their software on a model with a character
> > in the model - SSA had to modify BPCS security patch.  At Dekko we
> > tend to stay on the bleeding edge in some respects.  We are running
> > many versions.  We are in a holding pattern on 4.05CD.  We tend not
> > to upgrade to stuff that we know will need modifications and they
> > won't let us use the tools.
> >
> > CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET on 10/14/98 11:07:01 AM
> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> > To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> > cc:
> >
> > Subject:        Re: AS/400 V4R2-R1 "downgrade"
> >
> > Did you folks just go ahead and try this or did SSA give you their blessing 
>?
> >
> > My previous employer has been told different stories. The last being that 
>they would NOT support our current version of BPCS on
> > V4R2 or V4R3 (I think depening on which day you spoke to them). I ran into 
>the SAME thing when we moved from CISC to RISC several
> > years back. APPARENTLY we were one of the early ones to do this and I can't 
>BELIEVE the rigamaroll (sp ?) that we had to go
> > through. We EVENTUALLY got what we needed but the "alliance partners" 
>seemed to be more on the ball than SSA...
> >
> > Rob Berendt wrote:
> >
> > > We have a V4R3 machine as our development machine.  We are running 
>multiple versions of BPCS on it just fine.
> > >
> > > CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET on 10/14/98 12:12:41 AM
> > > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> > > To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> > > cc:
> > >
> > > Subject:        Re: AS/400 V4R2-R1 "downgrade"
> > >
> > > There s/w vendor wouldn't be Some Stupid A%#wipe, would it ;-)
> > >
> > > grnhornt@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has anybody tried de-upgrading an AS/400 OS release lately?  We have a 
>customer that wants to move a system from V4R2 back to
> > > > V4R1 so their secondary system matches that OS/400 release of their 
>production system which can't be upgraded right now.
> > > > (Their s/w vendor doesn't support V4R3, and they don't want to upgrade 
>twice in rapid succession).
> > > >
> > > > This process isn't documented anywhere that I can find (no surprise), 
>so right now I'm planning a relatively manual approach
> > > > of scratching the system, loading the OS and licensed programs, then 
>restoring the configuration and user libraries and
> > > > manually updating things like TCP/IP configuration and system values.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a better way that I can feel comfortable with?
> > > >
> > > > Erik Knudson
> > > > Symatrix Technology
> > > > Portland, OR
> > > >
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