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It has been years since I've been a regular COMMON attendee. However, I remember my wife attending one with me, and gushing about how wonderful it was. This was in the late 80's. I suspect she might not be as impressed today. Which brings me to my current suggestion: why don't we form a national users group that has periodic conferences with rules against commercial misuse of the proceedings? You know, presentations of the technology without sales talk. A friendly atmosphere. With programs for guests and spouses. I'm just at a loss as to what to call it. Hank Heath Project Manager Salt Lake City Home office: 801-733-9716 E-mail: HLHeath@ibm.net In a message dated 98-08-26 00:07:10 EDT, leo@tug.on.ca (Leo Lefebvre) wrote: << Subj: Re: COMMON Spouses Program Date: 98-08-26 00:07:10 EDT From: leo@tug.on.ca (Leo Lefebvre) Sender: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com Reply-to: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com (MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com), COMMON@COMMON.ORG (Diana DelPonte) David (and everybody else) I do not know if you're right or wrong about the guest program, but let's not make a federal case out of it. I will not be in Anaheim this fall but here what I think about the 'Spouse/Guest Program' at COMMON. Since Toronto in 1988 I have attended 12 COMMON conferences. Each and every time my wife came with me (and WILL CONTINUE TO COME regardless of the outcome of the so called 'Spouses' program). Each and every time I registered her to the the program, so I know what it is like. During the first years, the program cost less than half of today's cost (I beleived that in the early '80 it was only $25 -- today it goes from $100 for early bird to $120 for on-site registration) In those days, the program was run (like anything else at COMMON) by volunteers and those volunteers had NO INTEREST in the content of the conferences. These volunteers were great, they were helping each other, they WERE VISIBLE and brought a lot to the conference atmosphere. They were the ones who were selling the COMMON souvenirs in a make-shift store in a highly visible location in the main hotel (every conference I was buying souvenirs from the store - since they turned it over to a 'concession' -about six years ago- I bought absolutely NOTHING from the souvenir shop). That was only one aspect to the work the 'Guest/Spouse' volunteers were doing. Organising tours and hosting 'properly' the 'Hospitality Suite' were other functions these volunteers were excellent at. Year after year, the program looses its shine, is less attractive and is more expensive. What do spouses/guests get today for $100/$120: 1) On Day-1, in the morning, a few minutes presentation about the city they are visiting, offers to join tours (at costs that exceed the price they would pay for similar tours offered by tour companies with offices in the hotels, AND ON THE DAY THEY SELECTED) 2) From Day-1 (8:00AM to 5:00PM) to Day-5 (morning only) a hospitality suite were they can grab a danish and coffee or soft drink and 'relax' for a while ---- BUT NO regular attendee is allowed in that room 3) Admission to CUDS, fine, but now you have to pay for your drinks, where is the benefits. Frankly, the program is going down the drain anyway, the boat is sinking, let it go! unless you have MUCH BETTER ideas. Keep your money. For $100, for 5 days, your spouse/guest can get good breakfasts AND lunches. For CUDS? do something else, hit the town, stay a bit longer in the restaurant where you're having dinner, enjoy your time with your closest friend(s). If the program goes, my wife and I won't shed a tear. If will just give us the 'push' we needed to stop paying that $100 for less and less, conference after conference, something we had thought about for the last couple conferences. I would, thought, appreciate it, if COMMON keep a 'Badge System' for spouses/guests so that I can visit EXPO (with her) in the afternoon of Day-0, without leaving her on her own on a Sunday afternoon. If not, I will NOT visit the Expo on Sunday afternoon leaving me much less time to visit the exhibits. Leo >> +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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