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Of course you realize that NOBODY wants to send one of us "youngsters" to Common (or any other type of advanced training or educational seminars). I've been working in this biz for >13 years now, and have NEVER been sent for training/certification/vacation. (Well, I wonce was sent to IBM(Midland,TX) for a product announcement. Woo hoo! AS400-236.) Everything I've learned has come as a result of LONG, PAINFUL sessions with the ol' softcopy CD or industry mags (and of course this list). All I can figure is that as long as I try to teach myself what I NEED to know, then they (my managers) see NO NEED to send me off for training. Why pay for it if I'm willing to try to teach myself? I guess I need to start playing dumb when they ask me for ideas about problem x. Yea, I a little frustrated with this. I KNOW that if I want to progress in this biz, I need to try to stay current with techniques/technology, but how much is MY responsibility and how much my EMPLOYER? Every time I learn something new, I add value to the services I can perform for the employer. Shouldn't they reimburse me or otherwise compensate me for this. Shouldn't they CREATE opportunities for advances education or training? Maybe it's just where I've worked, or I've just been unlucky, or whatever. Is it just me? I have a lot of passion for learning new technology and applying it in a practical fashion. So why do I feel like I'm being taken advantage of by me employers? (sigh) Well, I just fell of my soapbox. Wonder if I should file workman's comp? ;/ Eric A DeLong ericadelong@pmsc.com ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: RE: AS/400 History Author: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > at INTERNET Date: 7/20/98 9:18 AM My god, three of us that weren't alive in the 60's! And John talks of the 'Graying of Common'! -Walden -----Original Message----- From: Scott, Shadrach [mailto:sscott@hiu.edu] Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 2:25 PM To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' Subject: RE: AS/400 History I don't know if you win. But I am glad to see that I am not the only person on this list who missed the 60's. Shadrach Scott Rich Puhek wrote: >Ok ok, I'll bite now. I wasn't even BORN in '71. Do I win? >Jeff Carey wrote: > > > > Gee, I was in KINDERGARTEN in '71! > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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