Hello from Australia. Jim, Yes, it is completely normal to run from the 'B' side all the time (generally). It is better to keep the temp PTFs as temp PTFs, that way you can remove one if you start to experience a problem. You should keep up to date with the CUME releases as well. Review the PTF cover letter that tells you all about what each PTF is about. You may not need/want to install all of them if you think your AS/400 environment is not likely to change dramatically over time. I have not ever had a problem with PTFs and have always followed these guidelines. Generally you only need to permanently apply PTFs before an upgrade. Then you may get notification from IBM about deleting certain PTFs before doing the upgrade as well. Regarding tape management, it is not generally so much more risky taking the tapes home (depending on where you live I suppose) than the potential disaster of have them and your AS/400 burn up, drown, or get stolen from work at the same time by leaving them there. If you live in the tornado belt, or other somewhat disaster prone area, either place may not be all that 'safe'. But at least if a copy is 'offsite' you will only be inconvenienced by the drive home (and back) to get them. I take our tapes home. Yes, a tape service could be an ideal solution, but I would be extremely interested in what they do with them! If you combine it with a disaster recovery plan for access to your AS/400 data at another location (another business service provided to the AS/400 community by several vendors - including IBM) then you have both bases covered. Warm regards from Melbourne, Australia Alan Smith President, COMMON Victoria Application Div. Mgr. COMMON98 MIS Manager, Toorak College Old Mornington Road Mount Eliza, Vic 3930 Direct: (61-3) 9788-7255 (61 Australia, 3 Victoria) Switchboard: (61-3) 9788-7200 Fax: (61-3) 9787-5888 Email: Alans@Toorakc.vic.edu.au <mailto:Alans@Toorakc.vic.edu.au> Website: www.toorakc.vic.edu.au <http://www.toorakc.vic.edu.au> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Welsh [SMTP:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 12:03 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Managing PTF's...Strategy? You Guru's I'd like to start a discussion dealing with the management of PTF's and Client Access upgrades. My own thoughts on this are to keep current and perm apply after a week or so if all is well. IPLSRC A, B....? I've not been involved in operations that much as I've mainly been application programming for the last 10 years. Being in a two person shop now where the manager appears to know less than I do about *managing* the 400 I'd like some feedback on some *best practices* approaches... Is it normal to run off IPLSRC B everyday ? Is it not more effecient to perm apply your ptf's ? How many have been burned by a perm applied ptf that was bad ? What was the solution ? How about tape backup management, isn't it a bit risky to take backup tapes home with you escpecially when your not keeping them in a safe ? Everyplace else i've worked has had there tapes picked up by a service company ( not sure what exactly they do with them ) : ) I'd like to see the two of us run an organized shop with good practices in place but right now I think we have much room for improvement. I can't make these decisions but I can make suggestions. Perhaps after hearing about what others are doing I'll have even better suggestions to make. Oh where Oh where will I find a well managed IS dept... tia -- Jim I'm surprised anything works at all http://www.netcom.com/~jimwelsh/welcome/welcome.html mailto:email@example.com +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: firstname.lastname@example.org +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: email@example.com +---
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