• Subject: RE: Rehash -- Getting A CISC Box "Legal"
  • From: Bob Crothers <bcrothers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:17:02 -0000

Can't you buy a brand new RISC based 150 or 170 with a fairly 
full compliment of software for around $15k?

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From:   Neil Palmer [SMTP:npalmer@NxTrend.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 12, 1998 6:48 PM
To:     'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject:        RE: Rehash -- Getting A CISC Box "Legal"

Short answer, NO.  You can't use any of the hardware from your 
D10 on a
170, and you can't upgrade ANY model
TO a 170.

Some sample US $ pricing:


*********************************  SOFTWARE
*********************************

  Product             Description             Qty       License


 5763-SS1 Operating System                      1

     1236 Basic One-Time Charge P10             1      7,000.00

     9001 Basic Asset Registration              1           N/C

                                                      =========

                                  5763-SS1 OTC         7,000.00


 5763-XW1 Client Access Windows Family          1

     2872 P10 Max User Cap                      1           N/C

     2876 Full Price per use                    1        275.00

     9001 Asset Registration                    1

                                                      =========

                                  5763-XW1 OTC           275.00


 5763-PW1 Application Development Toolset       1

     1120 Basic One-Time Charge P10             1      3,000.00

     9001 Asset Registration                    1           N/C

                                                      =========

                                  5763-PW1 OTC         3,000.00


 5763-QU1 Query/400                             1

     2198 Basic OTC P10                         1      1,600.00

     9001 Asset Registration                    1           N/C

                                                      =========

                                  5763-QU1 OTC         1,600.00


 5763-ST1 DB2 Query Mgr and SQL Dev Kit         1

     2243 Basic OTC P10                         1      1,600.00

     9001 Asset Registration                    1           N/C

                                                      =========

                                  5763-ST1 OTC         1,600.00


 5763-RG1 ILE RPG/400                           1

     0121 Basic One-Time Charge P10             1      2,400.00

     9001 Asset Registration                    1           N/C

                                                      =========

                                  5763-RG1 OTC         2,400.00


 5755-AS3 AS400 System Software                 1

     1411 C/A Windows Family (5763-XW1)         1           N/C

     1501 Operating System       5763-SS1       1           N/C

     1508 Query                  5763-QU1       1           N/C

     1511 Structure Query Lang   5763-ST1       1           N/C

     1512 ILE RPG                5763-RG1       1           N/C

     1526 Application DevToolset 5763-PW1       1           N/C

     2924 English Upper/Lower Case (SBCS)       1           N/C

     3405 1/4" Tape Cartridge QIC-525           1           N/C

     3520 Ship Release V3R2                     1           N/C

     7550 SoftCopy Lib on CD-ROM Media PUB      1           N/C

     9001 Asset Registration                    1           N/C



                                                      =========

                            Total Software OTC        15,875.00




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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAsmussen [SMTP:DAsmussen@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 5:51 PM
> To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: Rehash -- Getting A CISC Box "Legal"
>
> Gary,
>
> In a message dated 98-05-12 17:02:53 EDT, you write:
>
> > I own a D10.  Bought it last year for $1175.  It is in 
Processor
> Group
> >  P10.  When I licensed OS/400 v3r2, it was a $500 one time 
charge.
> I
> >  received a letter dated August 19, 1997 stating that the 
one time
> charge
> >  had been increased from $500 to $7,000!!  RPG went from 
$2,000 to
> >  $2,300.  Application Development Toolset (including SEU) 
went from
> >  $2,500 to $2,875.
> >
> >  I haven't received any more letters indicating further 
increases
> but you
> >  can check with IBM Direct at 800-426-2255.
>
> Yeeeeeeeeeeeouch!  If I may ask, just a _few_ more questions 
;-)?  Did
> the $7K
> _include_ RPG and ADT (which I won't be needing on the D10), 
or was
> the extra
> $5,175 in _addition to_ the $7K?  What cards did you get on 
your D10
> for
> $1,175?  Do you (or anyone else for that matter) know if the 
memory,
> DASD,
> DASD controllers, Ethernet, Token Ring, and FSIOP cards from a 
D10
> will work
> on a 170?
>
> In the meantime, I'll give IBM Direct a call...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dean Asmussen
> Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
> Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
> E-Mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com
>
> "There is no such thing as a non-working mother." -- Hester 
Mundis
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