RE: job testing

Don 

IMHO the test shows if a candidate is well rounded. And meets a minimal
level of programming knowledge
Since the candidate usually does not post a raw score, But just states that
they passed. I would probably look for an individual that had the
certification and then do some in depth questioning of the candidate, to
determine what their real life experience level is. I.e. just able to pass
of one that passed easily and is at a higher level. Just possessing a
certification does not make that candidate the right person for a shop or
contract.  It is just a starting point. 

Russ Popeil - IBM Certified Specialist RPG Programmer 
Avnet Computer - Integrated Solutions. Bottom-Line Results.
Office: 516-677-9346, Fax: 516-677-0296, Beeper: 516-786-5846
eMail:  Russ.popeil@avnet.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don [SMTP:dr2@access.digex.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 2:47 PM
> To:   Popeil, Russ
> Cc:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      RE: job testing
> 
> 
> Russ,
> 
> I agree, it's not mostly...but if you're looking at it from a raw score
> perspective and if the person taking it works in a shop that's not using
> ILE (which is ALOT of them), the raw score number will probably not fully
> relect the talents of the testee....  And, I would submit that most
> shops still are using the non-ILE  language set for their production and
> legacy applications.  Ergo, a skewed view of the candidate.
> 
> Don in DC, CDP (and still wondering why I too THAT certification...:)
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Popeil, Russ wrote:
> 
> > Don
> >  
> > The RPG certification is not mostly RPGIV,  but there are some
> questions.
> > The test was designed at a time when most shops were still using RPG400
> and
> > it was designed so that those people could pass. 
> > 
> > Russ Popeil - IBM Certified Specialist RPG Programmer 
> > Avnet Computer - Integrated Solutions. Bottom-Line Results.
> > Office: 516-677-9346, Fax: 516-677-0296, Beeper: 516-786-5846
> > eMail:  Russ.popeil@avnet.com
> > http://www.ac.avnet.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Don [SMTP:dr2@access.digex.net]
> > > Sent:     Tuesday, April 28, 1998 9:05 AM
> > > Cc:       MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > > Subject:  Re: job testing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't know of any per se industry accepted tests.  I know of a
> couple of
> > > companies that are using a test that they wrote...which do a decent
> job of
> > > weeding out the termites and bottom feeders down on the food chain...
> > > 
> > > There are a coupld of "certifications" floating around but the only
> ones
> > > I've seen so far regarding RPG require a substancial knowledge of the
> > > newer ILE languages, which 98% (SWAG number) of all shops are NOT
> > > using...so it's not a fair indicator as to how good the person may or
> may
> > > not be....
> > > 
> > > Don in DC metro
> > > 
> > > 
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