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** Reply to note from Glenn Ericson <Glenn-Ericson@att.net> Sat, 04 Apr 1998 11:52:54 -0500 > The conversations seems to have shifted to the IS Market place and what > it takes to satisfy IT talent today It appears salary alone is not the > driver but perks such as location, stable hours, a nice place to live > etc, have been brought up. > > Now, if you have to get a segment of your IT group into some " less than" > desirable project for a time what might you offer to keep their loyalty, > job satisfaction, and participation? > > Obtaining & Training new staff is costly Vs keeping the ones you have. Glenn, the job I have now is the best one I've had in twenty years. By far. But, the real question is WHY? First, I do make more than I have on a staff position before. But I could probably make more if I really tried, so while money is important I think it's more important that I know the pay is in line with my position. I don't think it is plausible to expect my company to show up every month or so with a raise (hey, it'd be great though!) and say, "MIS jobs have gone up in the market so we are keeping abreast." Financially, companies need to assure that they do not let their employees fall behind or the dollar difference gets to be insulting and that makes a big difference. Second, I live in a beautiful area that is great for a father raising teenagers. I think family oriented people will have different requirements here than singles. For me, I need a community where I feel my kids won't have excessive pressure to become involved with things I am hoping they will avoid. My family means more to me than any job, so a job that allows me to live in an area that I see as very positive for my family is a big plus. That makes a difference that you can't see when comparing paychecks. Third, I work with great people. I spend many hours a week with these people. If you are in a workplace where you need to deal with a lot of "pointy haired bosses" or even just that there isn't anyone else who can understand the things you do to get your job done, you can be frustrated every single day. It is so, so, so much better to deal with a group of people that not only understand but also can pitch in on the occasion when you need it. This sort of workplace culture fosters the _desire_ to work. When I know that someone else on my team is swamped and I am about caught up, I want to get stuff knocked out so I can lend a hand. This working atmosphere is a big part of the value of a job. You will spend most of your waking hours in the workplace. How much compensation would it take to make up the difference? I _like_ going in to work. How much money would I have to make to go into a place where I didn't enjoy it as much, or didn't like it at all. So before people think about switching, they should think about the entire package. What are they giving up, what are they getting. Just comparing salaries is silly, especially since in six months salaries will be back out of balance. This is leaving aside compeletely the questions of loyalty. If your employer has been loyal to you, you might like yourself better to return that. However, usually it is best to fulfill this by approaching the employer and explaining the reason you feel the need to change. Chris Rehm Mr.AS400@ibm.net How often can you afford to be unexpectedly out of business? Get an AS/400. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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