If they are only using 3164 display emulation they should be able to switch
from ASCII controller to something like the 5308 Protocol Converter, and it
should (probably) be transparent to the remote users.  (Maybe a slight
difference in procedure for initial signon & disconnect).


On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Carl Galgano wrote:

> Brian:
> I have set up NT RAS to the 400, but this customer already has ASCII WSC on
> model 400 with customers dialing in using PSI3164 emulator product.  They
> are concerned about what happens if they need to upgrade any of these
> systems.  As they role out new boxes over the next year they will probably
> continue to buy model 400s with the ASCII WSC.
> 
> One other solution is to configure a V24 comm port as a dial up SLIP (point
> to point TCP/IP) connection and use the WIN95 dialer to connect and any
> telnet (perferably a TN5250) product to do terminal emulation.  This may be
> what my client nees to do.
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> Carl
> 
> At 11:12 AM 10/4/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have a 5308 Link Protocol Converter floating around here somewhere.
> >I wouldn't highly recommend it though.  It doesn't support client access
> >and requires the PC to use terminal emulation software or a byzantine
> >utility called, I believe, Dial/3x.  Unless they have updated this ALOT it
> >is not worth the trouble.  If your client really uses dumb ASCII terminals
> >then it works OK since they are probably used to the limited keyboard
> mapping.
> >
> >Depending upon your network configuration you may wish to use one of my
> >three preferred methods:
> >1. Windows NT running RAS and SNA Server,
> >2. Windows NT running RAS with IP forwarding turned on,
> >3. A TCP/IP Remote Access Server.
> >
> >Solution 1 is more expensive than the others.  Solutions 2 and 3 require
> >you to run TCP/IP only and either Client Access or a TN5250 program.  We
> >currently use Solution 3 with a server called Quickstream from Sonic
> >Systems (about $900) and a TN5250 program called Reflection (about $100).
> >If you need to print then you would also need an LPD program (We just
> >bought one for about $30).
> >
> >I have no affiliation with the above mentioned companies etc,etc.  I am
> >just one of those people who sunk a lot of money into various alternatives
> >that 'almost' worked.
> >
> >HTH,
> >Brian L.
> >
> >
> >At 07:23 PM 10/3/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >>"Supposedly" the PCI ASCII controller card is "coming soon" for the
> >>600/S10 PC I only models (and would work in a 620/S20).
> >>"Possibly" with the 1Q98 announcements - but no guarantee.
> >>For now on the low end, assuming you don't need CA/400 connections,
> >>something like the 5308 Protocol Converter connected to a twinax port
> >>may be an alternative.
> >>
> >>
> >>Jeffrey M. Carey wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> The 600 does not support ASCII wsc.  Maybe see if they will fit on a
> >>> server box - S20-S40, or go to a 620.
> >>> 
> >>> Carl Galgano wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Does anyone have any idea if you upgrade from a model 400 to a moel
> >>> 600 if
> >>> > there is any problem moving a 6141 ASCII WSC?  One of my clients was
> >>> told
> >>> > the ASCII WSC was not supported on the model 600??
> >>> > Any ideas?
> >>> > Carl
> >>
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