Re: FW: MIDRANGE-JOBS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 187

When Corporate executives outsource jobs, cut health benefits, bail on pension plans or slash workers to boost stock value they bring up the "Bogey Man": Globalization. They claim they are forced into these positions by competition from overseas. However, in the same breath they fight any attempts to curb some of the practices that cause unfair trade. Most of this is a scam fortunately not everyone drank the kool aide.

From: joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: midrange-jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:04:59 -0600> Subject: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] FW: MIDRANGE-JOBS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 187> > *** Please pay close attention when replying to a message on this list!> *** If you want the reply to go to the list, use REPLY-TO-ALL> *** Recruiters may advertise only permanent employment positions in this list.> > > > From: Jon Paris> > > > If they were thinking this far ahead then how do you explain why they> > are all seeking soft degrees in the liberal arts arena? The kids are> > not _just_ abandoning Comp-Sci - they are abandoning _all_ science> > related programs. Enrollment is down in all of them. The threat of> > off-shoring doesn't explain that.> > > > Actually, I don't much care about the kids going to University. Those have> never been the primary source of programmers in the midrange market. They> may well be for the sexy career paths like game programming, but I've NEVER> met someone who went to college to become an ERP programmer.> > I'm worried about the technical colleges such as DeVry. Just recently,> DeVry was very gung ho about a System i curriculum, but unfortunately a> tepid turnout from the community may have turned them off. A lot of the> blame for that can be laid directly at the feet of the business community> and the local user group, but the overall cycle is still there. A kid> realizes he's not going to be a surgeon, so the next best thing used to be> going to the local technical college. If there's no System i curriculum> there, or if the industry sucks in general, then there are no newbie> programmers.> > > > Anyway - this debate is going nowhere as it does every time it occurs.> > Not true, we've actually addressed some of the more serious issues,> especially the rampant abuse of the visa system. The lack of new> programmers is only a small portion of the issue. The bigger and most> undeniable fact is that outsourcing just transfers wealth out of the> American middle class to outsourcing companies (and to a small degree the> employees of those corporations) and to the primary shareholders of> multinational companies. It's a short term redistribution at best, since it> is the disposable income of the American middle class that has supported a> significant segment of the growth of the world's economy in the first place.> > It's simple math that redistributing the wealth of some 300 million people> to over six BILLION people while at the same time destroying the largest> consumer market in the world is going to do nothing except raise the number> of people in substandard living conditions.> > But hey, that's what happens when common sense and globalism collide.> > Joe> > -- > This is the Midrange Jobs: Postings & Discussion (MIDRANGE-JOBS) mailing list> To post a message email: MIDRANGE-JOBS@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,> visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-jobs> or email: MIDRANGE-JOBS-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Don't forget to check the midrange.com jobs board at http://jobs.midrange.com