I can speak from experience - it IS very hard to find IT workers, local or
not, that have the specific skills employers want - which right now is java
or c#. I'm sorry, but it is not about trying to find a foreign worker at a
depressed wage - it is about trying to find someone with the skills.
Employers want to bring someone in who already possesses the skills they
need as it is expensive and time consuming to train people that don't. Some
day java programmers will have a hard time finding a job because there will
be a new 'whizbang' language that has replaced it. It is difficult in IT
to keep up one's skills but marketability absolutely depends on it. We are
in a global economy - like it or not. If someone in India, Pakistan, China,
etc has the skills a company needs then they are going to find an easier
time finding a job than a local person who does not have the specific skills
required for the job. I hate it but it is true.
Brian Whitfield
Essential Resources
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Let's also outsource jobs in Congress while we're at it!
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On the note of Immigration reform: The proposal to have a "guest worker"
program. Great in theory, but the "guests" being considered by the bill
that was defeated were on a merit system where highly educated people got
first crack. It sounded to me like the "guest worker" that Congress was
trying to bring in to the country wasn't the farm laborer, but <gasp> the
high-tech people who are not able to get in because of the H1-B cap.
Under that proposal, we would have STILL had millions of illegal cheap farm
labor who didn't qualify under the merit system AND whole bunches of cheap
high-tech skilled labor.
Gotta love Congress. Best government money can buy.
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From: Cindy Howard
I'm sorry to interrupt here, and I don't know if what you are saying
about the grant is true or not, but the problem isn't that we don't
have educated, trained IT professionals available in the US. There are
plenty of educated, trained, AND experienced people available to fill the
jobs.
I agree. Like in so many industries being flooded with external labor, it's
not that there are no workers. It's just that there are no workers willing
to work for the artificially depressed wages that employers can pay to
people from countries that don't have our standards, from safety to health
to cost of living.
The only good news is that Congress seems finally to recognize the fact that
illegal immigration is a threat to the country. Hopefully we can convince
them that cheap visa labor is just as bad, if not worse, of a threat,
because it drains us of those high-end jobs that we need to be competitive
in the global economy.
But the only way to sway Congress these days is the old fashioned way:
threaten to vote them out of office. Appealing to their sense of duty is
pretty much a lost cause.
Joe
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