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----- Original Message -----
From: JMURFITT@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: RE: Midrange Jobs National Discussion
To: Jon Paris <Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: midrange-jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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Jon has some valid points. I am very skilled in RPG400 and have 
taught myself RPG IV. Because I have been off the iseries for a few 
years 
due to family obligations and a very slow market, companies will not 
even look at me. Yet I see the same companies advertising for RPG 
programmers over and over for the same position, because the 
people they hire do not work out. As Jon said why not hire highly 
skilled 
people with aptitude and train them. If they were to hire me it 
would not take long for me to reach a high skill level with RPG IV and 
RPGLE. I am more than happy to start at a mid level salary and work my 
way up. Instead these companies hire programmers with less skills or 
aptitude for acquiring the neccessary skills and they end up looking 
for a 
new person 2-3 times a year. Where's the logic?

Joe

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From: Jon Paris <Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:44 pm
Subject: RE: Midrange Jobs National Discussion
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" Our experience within the last few years is that it is hard to 
find> seasoned ISeries people who can handle large systems and 
large scale
projects.  When we go looking, the prospects are slim."

This to me is one of the great mysteries.  As has been apparent 
in 
thesethreads, there are many System i folks out there who seem 
to 
be looking for
work.  At the same time I constantly hear from customers that 
one 
of the
reasons they are considering moving off the box is a lack of 
qualified> staff.  You don't mention that you are looking for 
"cheap" staff - 
which is
often one of the problems - so why are all the qualified people 
not rushing
after your vacancies?

Have you considered training folks with experience in other 
languages?  Or
perhaps even training people with aptitude and experience in 
your 
industryto program?

As I noted in an earlier post - the staff shortage is one that 
System i is
simply seeing before other platforms because as a community we 
are 
smallcompared with Java etc. But I am convinced that outsourcing 
will be a
necessity before long because there simply aren't new kids 
entering the
field.  Comp-sci is passé - the kids aren't interested.

Jon Paris
Partner400

www.Partner400.com 



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