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   Not completely true, about contractors knowing when their last day is.     
   This is not always the case.  Most contracts, whether done through a firm  
   or individually, can be terminated at any time.  As a victim of            
   outsourcing I did not get anymore lead time than anyone else about when my 
   job would end.  My current contract was through July, but I will not make  
   it past April 1, and will not be compensated for April-June.  Also, yes, a 
   full time employee generally does come out ahead of the contractor when    
   benefits are included.                                                     
                                                                              
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     Hmmmm... think I might have to argue this one. Consultants are usually   
                                                                              
     paid VERY well, and remain consultants because the money, in the end and 
                                                                              
     considering all their expenses, is far greater than they would make as   
     an                                                                       
                                                                              
     employee.                                                                
                                                                              
     Contractors, maybe not, but most probably work through a firm that       
                                                                              
     provides benefits, so in a lot of cases, probably a break even.          
                                                                              
     At least a contractor or consultant KNOWS when their last day is, an     
                                                                              
     employee, in most cases, does not.                                       
                                                                              
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     On Tue, January 30, 2007 10:37 am, Fisher, Don said:                     
                                                                              
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     > When you say "paid the same", how do you define "pay"? Monetarily,     
                                                                              
     > consultants are usually paid more than employees. However, considering 
                                                                              
     > that alone as pay requires a very narrow view of compensation.         
                                                                              
     >                                                                        
                                                                              
     > Consultants pay their own health insurance, pay the employer's share   
     of                                                                       
                                                                              
     > F.I.C.A. and medicare, provide their own retirement plans, and make no 
                                                                              
     > money while on vacation or sick. This is not true for those working    
     for                                                                      
                                                                              
     > contracting firms, but those receive considerably less than what is    
                                                                              
     > received by the firm.                                                  
                                                                              
     >                                                                        
                                                                              
     > Employees, on the other hand, get discounted group health insurance,   
     401K                                                                     
                                                                              
     > plans with employer contributions, vacation pay, sick pay, and some    
     other                                                                    
                                                                              
     > things I'm probably forgetting.                                        
                                                                              
     >                                                                        
                                                                              
     > If one considers the total compensation package, one will probably     
                                                                              
     > discover employees are generally better compensated than contractors.  
                                                                              
     > That's to say nothing of the reduced risk an employee has versus a     
                                                                              
     > contractor.                                                            
                                                                              
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     > Donald R. Fisher, III                                                  
                                                                              
     > Project Manager                                                        
                                                                              
     > RoomStore, Inc.                                                        
                                                                              
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     > Are the employees being paid the same or more than the consultants? If 
                                                                              
     > so, that would be very unusual in my experience. Why would an employee 
                                                                              
     > stay with an employer that pays more to consultants than they are      
     their                                                                    
                                                                              
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