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Yes I will follow Bob " If you think having certifications help you then they do, if you think certifications do not help you then they do not!" Some persons like Certifications, some others do not like it and on both side of the job the worker or the client. I am working since 1981 without any certifications for more than 50 Companies(for only five Clients) as a contractor and it was always the Client who pushed me to stay from one Contracting Company to another when they wanted to leave the first company for contractual issues and get a new contractor on board they (the Clients) always assist me getting in the new company with my condition for salary, compensation, benefit (if any), etc... You have other way to show you are able to do a job, if you have a lot of experience in your field and you are a contractor as I do for 25 years now give them the opportunity to test you on the field, I even often offer the first month free of charge for the client to test me and decide, specially for companies which likes Certifications, money talk don't forget it... Choose your way as you feel it, Dominique DUCHEMIN Bits and PCs Mainframe IBM 34-36-38 AS400 Bull DPS700 HP 1000-3000-9000 Altiris Support -----Original Message----- From: midrange-jobs-bounces+dominique_duchemin=hotmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-jobs-bounces+dominique_duchemin=hotmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marion, Bob Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:58 AM To: Midrange-jobs Subject: RE: Certifications? *** Please pay close attention when replying to a message on this list! *** If you want the reply to go to the list, use REPLY-TO-ALL *** Recruiters may advertise only permanent employment positions in this list. I feel certifications can help a person in a multitude of employment situations. 1). If you are employed passing certifications may communicate to your employer that you take your career growth serious and you have also validated a certain skill set and you may can tie passing a cert to your performance review since it is measurable. Also, a wide range of certifications will show a broad skill set internally at your current job and to future employers. 2). If you are interviewing for a job, often the hiring person needs to convey to their management why they choose a certain person and certifications are a great item to justify hiring you. Assuming your hard skills meets their needs. 3). And even if you have been on the system I for many years like I have (1989) you will still learn about new functionality when you study for a test. This year I choose to take for the first time and refresh several System I certifications and other certifications and it was very educational and yes I studied for many hours to pass the test. If you think having certifications help you then they do, if you think certifications do not help you then they do not! Have a great day! Bob Marion PerotSystems iSeries Technical Solutions - Design V5R3 iSeries Single System Administrator V5R3 iSeries System Command Operations V5R2 Certified Document Imaging Architect plus Input Capture Professional Storage Area Network ITIL -----Original Message----- From: midrange-jobs-bounces+bryan_burns=echo-usa.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-jobs-bounces+bryan_burns=echo-usa.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David Gibbs Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:58 PM To: Midrange-jobs Subject: Certifications? An interesting thread was started on Slashdot about IT Certifications (http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/06/0337209). I'm curious as to how valuable certifications are in the System i market. david
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