Average salaries don't mean much. 

Confucius Once Said: Learning a programming language may get your foot
in the door; learning the "business" will keep you there and increase
your income potential. Contribute towards the success of the business
and you will be worth more to the business and will be in charge of your
own destiny. Waiting for a raise because you know "X" language and have
"Y" years of experience is only a crap shoot. Some people have 1 year of
experience because they have done the same things over and over for 10
consecutive years.

That Confucius Was One Smart Cookie.

Dale Walker
VP, MIS
Gross-Given Mfg. Company & Automatic Products International
St. Paul, MN



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Mid 40's in central PA
People with 10-15 years are making mid 50s

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The answer, of course, is "It depends".  There are programmers with 20
years
of experience I wouldn't pay more than 35K and there are those with
less
than five years that are probably worth 60K or more.  I'm speaking in
terms
of "Richmond, VA dollars", which are worth considerably more than
"Northern
Virginia dollars" or "San Francisco dollars".  Geography plays a role
as
does the amount of programming talent in your area.  If there are a lot
of
available RPG programmers in the area, your employer, in the typical
short-sightedness common to employers, may feel that if you leave for
a
higher salary, another programmer can be easily found to replace you. 


If you believe you have the talent to make more than 35K, you should
be
asking for a raise, and you're doing the right thing getting salaries
of
comparable people.  Were I you, I'd be looking for another job anyway,
as
your employer doesn't seem too interested in keeping you happy, which
means
you're deemed expendable. 

Good luck.

Donald R. Fisher, III
Project Manager
Roomstore Furniture Company
(804) 784-7600 extension 2124
DFisher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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With over 4 years of experience programming in RPGIV, what do you think
is
the minimum an RPGIV programmer should be making?
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