There is an XA solution called Integrated Outside Operations that started at release 6. The Quick Reference Guide that I use is SH62694, but I think release 7 has different PTF's. This includes having an MO for the manufacturing steps (with a cross reference to the PO), so multiple part numbers can be issued to the MO if that is required. Then the inventory value will be carried on the MO and not in item warehouse balances. There are options of when the outside processing charge is added to the MO (at RP or at invoice time). Outside operation steps can be set up in the standard routings or an existing operation can be sent outside on an existing MO, if needed. Variances are calculated against the standard via the MO. If interested, look up "outside operations" in Infor's Knowledge Base.

Rich McCracken


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From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom E Stieger
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:57 PM
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I agree you wouldn't want to keep it in inventory when it is not (an IP before you ship to the vendor would take care of that, but like you said, "It works well if all persons involved care enough to play along.")

In the past I have seen customers PO's come in with the components they were supplying listed on the PO. It was great as a supplier to see that come through on the paper work so there was no confusion. Unfornately I don't think there is an XA way to do this directly with the PO.

-Tom Stieger
Engineer
California Fine Wire

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From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Todd Ivy
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:51 AM
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That would work as well if the orders and material were turned quickly. The reason why we don't do that is b/c our outsource companies may hold our component inventory for quite some time. To save confusion, we don't want to show these components in our inventory at our facility. If a MO is executed, there needs to be component stock in the inventory to deplete and avoid negative quantities.

Todd Ivy

TYMCO, Inc.
225 E. Industrial Blvd
Waco, Tx 76705

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F:(254) 799-2722

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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:39 PM
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Why not create an item for the outsource contract work?

The finished item can then have an MO created for it with a bill of material including all the components needed and the outsource service item. Then the finished goods item will have the cost of the components and the service to put them together.

-Tom Stieger
Engineer
California Fine Wire

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On Behalf Of Todd Ivy
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:21 AM
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Kevin,

We manufacture most of our "manufacturable" parts in house. Although, for some parts it makes more sense to outsource. In this case, we manufacture all of the components in house through Manufacturing Work Orders, gather parts and a parts list, and send parts to outsource company along with a PO.
When components are sent out, we execute a misc issue (IS) for all of the components leaving our facility. Then the finished products are eventually received back to our stock as a completed weldment on a PO.

This is theoretical. It works well if all persons involved care enough to play along. If anyone has better ideas, I would be interested as well.

Todd Ivy

TYMCO, Inc.
225 E. Industrial Blvd
Waco, Tx 76705

T:(254) 799-5546 Ext:389
F:(254) 799-2722

www.tymco.com <http://www.tymco.com>






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[mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kevin Fox
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:09 PM
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Subject: [MAPICS-L] Contract FAB


All,



I is common business practice to sub-contract board fabrication. It is also common business practice to supply some or all of the components for the
fab(less) shop.



I'd like to know how you are handling such an issue. Basically, how do you supply a vendor components with a PO?



Thanks in advance for your expertise.



Kevin Fox



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