As Doug said - lots of issues. Over the years we've dealt with them in a
number of ways.
The thing you need to be concerned about is primarily the cost currency.
When you install a MAPICS environment it ask you for the primary
environment currency - read COST. No currency conversion goes on - IFM or
not - of costs. So, for example, if you transfer inventory from one
warehouse to another (US to France) XA assumes that the cost is in the
primary environment currency.
Another issue is the language of the data. If you share items the item
descriptions may need to be in the local language. Even with EPDM and
item revisions there are still a few things that are not enabled and go
back to use the released site (item master). All other data language
needs to be considered.
You will notice that most of the files that contain cost have a user field
for currency ID. We got MAPICS to add that for our customer way back
about 10 years ago. We had 32 sites all around the world that were
sharing one environment. The only reason we had a different environment
was if we needed a different AS/400 because of poor telecommunications
infrastructure in the country.
The Shared Environment solution is a good one. We used the predecessor to
that with Terry Borgert at Progressive Systems help.
If you'd like to discuss this further you can contact me at the number
below - or via email.
Dee A. Sondergard
Information Systems International, Inc.
A Global ERP Consulting Firm
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We did it for a customer. It's still in active use. I could discuss
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I know the official Infor line with XAR6 is that there is no offline
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date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:24:05 -0800
from: "Jon Le Roi" <jleroi@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or share
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Hello,
Tegal is on release 5.5 of XA (yeah, alright so we still call it MAPICS
like everyone else)
In the past, Tegal has created separate environments for each
company/subsidiary that was created. At one point, we had 7 separate
production environments (each with a separate currency). We are down to
3 active production environments and I have been informed that we will
need to create a new company for a new subsidiary in France (quickly of
course). I am wondering if it would make more sense to add a new company
to our existing primary environment as compared to creating a new
environment. All items exist in the primary environment and then get
created as they are needed into the subsidiaries. This has been
automated to a point but has led to many a problem over the past couple
of years.
Any thoughts, suggestions, warnings.... would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
Jon Le Roi
Director of I.T.
Tegal Corporation
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message: 3
date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:43:21 -0800 (PST)
from: Pete Olshavsky <polshavsky@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or share
environment
Jon, the only argument is security. Is the new company(france) allowed to
see data in the existing company? can not set up security?by company.
You could have a shared? pgm env.
pete
Guide Technologies
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:24:05 PM
Subject: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or share
environment
Hello,
Tegal is on release 5.5 of XA (yeah, alright so we still call it MAPICS
like everyone else)
In the past, Tegal has created separate environments for each
company/subsidiary that was created. At one point, we had 7 separate
production environments (each with a separate currency). We are down to
3 active production environments and I have been informed that we will
need to create a new company for a new subsidiary in France (quickly of
course). I am wondering if it would make more sense to add a new company
to our existing primary environment as compared to creating a new
environment. All items exist in the primary environment and then get
created as they are needed into the subsidiaries. This has been
automated to a point but has led to many a problem over the past couple
of years.
Any thoughts, suggestions, warnings.... would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
Jon Le Roi
Director of I.T.
Tegal Corporation?
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date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:56:40 -0500
from: douglas emerine <emerinedoug@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or share
environment
Hello
There are several issues that come to play when adding a new company with
a different currency than that of the "local currency".
Will this company have item master costs? If so they will be in the local
currency which will cause issues. Production records will be in the local
currency. CAS security is an issue.
Watermark has a solution which may assist in this process. It is called
Shared Applications. If you would like additonal information on this, let
me know.Thanks Douglas M. Emerineemerinedoug@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 12
Feb 2009 16:24:05 -0800> From: jleroi@xxxxxxxxx> To:
mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate
environment or share environment> > Hello,> > Tegal is on release 5.5 of
XA (yeah, alright so we still call it MAPICS> like everyone else)> > In
the past, Tegal has created separate environments for each>
company/subsidiary that was created. At one point, we had 7 separate>
production environments (each with a separate currency). We are down to> 3
active production environments and I have been informed that we will> need
to create a new company for a new subsidiary in France (quickly of>
course). I am wondering if it would make more sense to add a new company>
to our existing primary environment as compared to creating a new>
environment. All i!
tems exist in the primary environment and then get> created as they are
needed into the subsidiaries. This has been> automated to a point but has
led to many a problem over the past couple> of years. > > Any thoughts,
suggestions, warnings.... would be greatly appreciated.> > TIA> > Jon Le
Roi> Director of I.T.> Tegal Corporation > >
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date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:24:00 -0500
from: "Gindlesperger, Dale" <DGindle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or share
environment
Jon,
I'm with Pete O. on this one. I think you would find it a lot cleaner to
have a separate environment (sharing the AMALIBx). Simpler on security,
and all around easier to manage. And you already know how to manage
multiple environments. At my prior employer, for a couple years we added
a product line that was run separate from the rest of the company (that
area ran as a demand-flow shop, unlike the rest of the plant), and it was
a lot easier to keep things separate with two separate environments. It
was easier for the accounting function also.
We looked hard at setting up a separate company, but decided it would be
harder with all the reporting changes and all - the hundreds of queries
and such were all done assuming company 01. We didn't want to have to
deal with all that - separate data libraries were easier to manage.
Dale "Cork" Gindlesperger
Senior Business Analyst
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date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:41:25 EST
from: Denroxi@xxxxxxx
subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or share
environment
I do not think 5.5 has IFM capability, but I set up a medical device firm
with offices in Costa Rica, Chile & Argentina in 1 environment employing
the
EPDM feature of 7.0 with the IFM module installed.
Security is per site. If you did not want someone to see data in another
country, security is just like plain vanilla MAPICS as to who you
authorize to
inquire, data enter or file maintenance @ each site.
All 3 countries had different currencies which with IFM were converted to
US
dollars for the headquarters finance geeks on line realtime if necessary.
Once again..5.5 may not have this ability,....and you need EPDM
In a message dated 2/13/2009 11:24:33 A.M. Pacific SA Daylight Time,
DGindle@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Jon,
I'm with Pete O. on this one. I think you would find it a lot cleaner to
have a separate environment (sharing the AMALIBx). Simpler on security,
and
all around easier to manage. And you already know how to manage
multiple
environments. At my prior employer, for a couple years we added a
product line
that was run separate from the rest of the company (that area ran as a
demand-flow shop, unlike the rest of the plant), and it was a lot easier
to keep
things separate with two separate environments. It was easier for the
accounting function also.
We looked hard at setting up a separate company, but decided it would be
harder with all the reporting changes and all - the hundreds of queries
and such
were all done assuming company 01. We didn't want to have to deal with
all
that - separate data libraries were easier to manage.
Dale "Cork" Gindlesperger
Senior Business Analyst
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date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:57:39 -0600
from: "Ioffe, Jane [BUL/LAK]" <Jane.Ioffe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or
shareenvironment
Hello,
Our company Buehler Ltd is on R5.5 and have all the features of IFM
modules installed and Running perfect for us (except some user issues ;)
We also using Shared Apps, where all Master files are shared and
transactional data are silos. Shared apps is not a quick solution (not
easy to install, but PSI could help you out with that) - but down road
it will bring a lot of benefits. I agree, for this particular task and
time constrains it would be cleaner to create a new environment,
specifically if it requires to have various securities and currencies.
Thank you and Regards,
Jane Ioffe
847-295-4593
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Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:41 AM
To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] new company - seperate environment or
shareenvironment
I do not think 5.5 has IFM capability, but I set up a medical device
firm
with offices in Costa Rica, Chile & Argentina in 1 environment employing
the
EPDM feature of 7.0 with the IFM module installed.
Security is per site. If you did not want someone to see data in another
country, security is just like plain vanilla MAPICS as to who you
authorize to
inquire, data enter or file maintenance @ each site.
All 3 countries had different currencies which with IFM were converted
to US
dollars for the headquarters finance geeks on line realtime if
necessary.
Once again..5.5 may not have this ability,....and you need EPDM
In a message dated 2/13/2009 11:24:33 A.M. Pacific SA Daylight Time,
DGindle@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Jon,
I'm with Pete O. on this one. I think you would find it a lot cleaner
to
have a separate environment (sharing the AMALIBx). Simpler on
security, and
all around easier to manage. And you already know how to manage
multiple
environments. At my prior employer, for a couple years we added a
product line
that was run separate from the rest of the company (that area ran as a
demand-flow shop, unlike the rest of the plant), and it was a lot
easier to keep
things separate with two separate environments. It was easier for the
accounting function also.
We looked hard at setting up a separate company, but decided it would
be
harder with all the reporting changes and all - the hundreds of queries
and such
were all done assuming company 01. We didn't want to have to deal with
all
that - separate data libraries were easier to manage.
Dale "Cork" Gindlesperger
Senior Business Analyst
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