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yup...

this is exactly what we are going to do. We have a bunch of trash in the
system now, for various reasons, which will be cleaned up as part of
this process.

Thanks for confirming my thought process, too!

Cheers!


Charley

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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:28 PM
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Charlie,
Thank you for the details.

You can essentially accomplish the same process with EPDM:
- Do not use revisions and effectivity dates in the item revision file
- Do not use revisions with the BOMs
- Do not use effectivity dates at the Parent level in the BOM
- Use effectivity dates at the component levels within the BOM

This in effect, will give you revision history at the component level






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Sure, glad to oblige...

We live in a simple world where revisions are truly that: they are fully
interchangeable, inventory can be co-mingled, etc.; if not, then it is a
new item number. Using date effectivity in the BOM gets us the obvious
calculations, etc.

As such, forcing another item revision record to be created to track
that the revision ID incremented buys us nothing at the end of the day.

Did I mention we don't use Routings...yet.

We are a small company with simple processes and the additional "feed
the monster" time required to keep EPDM in sync and fully updated is
just not value-add...for us.

Some will say that you need to have the rev ID on BOM changes but I
disagree. Properly managed effectivity dates give us all the control
and historical view we need, if it truly is a revision, i.e. fully
interchangeable.

That help?


Charley

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Charlie,
I am curious to learn what in EPDM you don't need?

Phil Campa





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EPDM does provide some excellent tools and when needed work great. For
us, it's a "sledgehammer on a fly" solution...


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Good, no EXCELLENT, answer. For us, EPDM added the alternate routings
and
such that really gave us what we needed.

Dale Gindlesperger
IT Manager/Special Projects Leader
Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.
258 Beacon Street
Somerset, PA 15501






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yeah, I know it sounded a wee bit bizarre, but...

Simply put: EPDM, properly used, FORCES additional steps that for us are
just not necessary and, consequently, not value-add to our processes and
controls.




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I was a little horrified that you would want to even CONSIDER that move.
It would be awful to step back from EPDM, although even PDM+ would be
better than nothing........ Out of curiosity, may I ask why that was
being considered?

Dale Gindlesperger
IT Manager/Special Projects Leader
Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.
258 Beacon Street
Somerset, PA 15501





cancel the question....

I forgot that PDM is a dead product and that fixes and improvements will
really only be for EPDM....

you forget these things as you age...

*c*

Charley

Charley Simpson, CPIM
Director, Material Planning & Logistics
805-426-3414
www.turboneticsinc.com <http://www.turboneticsinc.com/>





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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:41 AM
To: 'MAPICS ERP System Discussion'
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R6

Hope everyone is having a good day...

Does anyone know if you can reverse migrate EPDM back to PDM?

Thanks!

Charley

Charley Simpson, CPIM
Director, Material Planning & Logistics
805-426-3414
www.turboneticsinc.com <http://www.turboneticsinc.com/>







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