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No, the first thing I would ask is it all or some objects. If the answer is all, then the solution will probably be hardware related. If it is just some of the objects (maybe the most used so it seems like all of them), then the solution may be to add an access path to replace a temporay file that is created to help return the data that has been requested. There are also some 'history' objects that have problems with multiple members. This can be corrected by getting rid of the usually unused restored history members. If you have time, contact me offline to see if we can pinpoint something. Robert Russell Paragon SI -----Original Message----- From: LDegnon@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:LDegnon@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tue 3/23/2004 4:17 PM To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion Cc: LD'Anna@xxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: R7 advantages I wonder what the minimum requirements for AS/400 really are??? It would seem that this is the main reason for the performance increase? We are struggling with a 170/2290, and Browser performance with a 3 GHZ P.C. with 2GB RAM full duplex Switched 100Mb Ethernet is almost unbearably slow to do most things. I'm sure that the first thing that we will be told is that we need to purchase a New AS/400 (and bigger$$$$ License) to go to Version 7... Lloyd H. Degnon I.S. Manager AmPro Computers, Inc. 5215 Hellyer Ave. Building #110 San Jose, CA 95138 (408) 360-4365 ldegnon@xxxxxxxxx www.AmPro.com "Robert Russell" <Robert.Russell@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/23/2004 07:48 AM Please respond to MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "MAPICS ERP System Discussion" <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: R7 advantages Steve, You are correct that all of the things in Phil's note require Browser. He was responding to William's request for improvements in Browser and Integrator. As for PC size, I will tell you that we continue to do benchmarks using a 500 MHz PC. Obviously bigger PCs will perform some of the tasks faster. In our experience, the amount of PC memory affects performance more than horsepower. We recommend 256MBs of free memory. So you are probably looking at PCs with a minimum of 512MBs. However, Integrator on R6 is more CPU intensive (especially developer start-up). In R7 we have made significant improvements in that area. Here is an example using actual customer data: Data Set 298 User-created (new) Business Objects 30 Modified Mapics Business Objects R6 Machine: 2.5GHz (1GB RAM) Approx amount of raw Integrator data transferred: 5.0 MB Time to bring up Business Object List (all data from AS/400): 5:30 Time to bring up Business Object List (all data cached in local Data directory): 3:15 Machine: 800MHz (768MB RAM) Approx amount of raw Integrator data transferred: 5.0 MB Time to bring up Business Object List (all data from AS/400): 11:05 Time to bring up Business Object List (all data cached in local Data directory): 6:00 R7 Machine: 2.5GHz (1GB RAM) Time to bring up Business Object List: 0:02 Machine: 800MHz (768MB RAM) Time to bring up Business Object List: 0:03 So to summerize, PC size will depend on what you determine as acceptable. Also PC size is only a small part of performance. Network bandwith and Host CPW also can play a major role. Dave Colvin at MAPICS may be able to help you evaluate your specific environment. Robert Russell, Paragon SI -----Original Message----- From: sjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tue 3/23/2004 8:14 AM To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion Cc: Subject: R7 advantages All those enhancements look like they require the Browser, is that correct? What are the minimum PC requirements for running Browser & what are most people running to achieve adequate results? Thanks in advance. 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