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Clarification - If you choose to participate please send responses to my personal email address and not to the mapics list. Thanks, Dale Walker -----Original Message----- From: Walker, Dale Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:57 AM To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: ALF Expense Analysis I am in the midst of analyzing our ALF costs/benefits and am involved in ongoing talks with my MAPICS affiliate regarding the continual annual ALF increases that we have been experiencing with the goal of working towards a mutually beneficial solution. I only wish that our business could impose considerable price increases like this each and every year. >From a personal perspective we have found ourselves in a position where the ALF expense is consuming a significant enough portion of the budget that it is now directly hindering our ability to implement and leverage some of the newer modules and I have to believe that we are not alone in this situation. If left unchecked, we will surely find ourselves essentially "left-behind" because of the heavy baggage that we carry each year with the mounting ALF charges. As many of you have most likely done in the past I am talking with various MAPICS accounts in order to make a comparison between ILF & ALF charges and to determine what the "norm" is. My initial goal was to use this data for internal decision making purposes only but if you wish to receive a summary of my findings you can send me your statistics as noted below. I will share my findings with those who chose to participate but I will not disclose any company names. * Modules installed & current ALF charges for each * Concurrent user license? If so, how many? * Tier based license? If so, what tier? How many average concurrent users? * ALF price changes +- occurring in past years * Include any comments regarding your satisfaction of the value of ALF expenses. Improving satisfaction? Decreasing satisfaction? Neutral? * Company name & contact email address Being in IT for 20+ years I can appreciate the difficulty of how software solutions are priced; both in terms of initial acquisition cost and ongoing support costs. If ever there was a topic ripe for controversy this is it. There is a little black area, a little white area, and a LARGE gray area when it comes to software pricing. The intent of this exercise is not to initiate some sort of widespread witch-hunt but is aimed at helping those who participate to determine how each of our individual ALF charges compare with other MAPICS accounts by using a direct comparison of actual charges incurred. Based on this information we should all be able to make better informed decisions in the future. Dale Walker VP, Management Information Systems Gross-Given Mfg. Co. / Automatic Products Intnl' St. Paul, MN direct 651-290-4349 fax 651-224-5559 cell 651-270-4150 dwalker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.automaticproducts.com <http://www.automaticproducts.com/> _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l.
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