RE: Mapics XA and Syteline

["Konrad Underkofler" <kdunderk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gregory,

It is what CASE has evolved into stopping off at UML. Try the Olymars
tool that Microsoft has provided for free. It generates .Net code for
the schema, web access, windows client all at the same time. The
components then can be changed with very few lines of code with all the
validation and editing built in underneath. The nice thing is the newer
tools don't require knowing CASE or UML to actually generate the
application. It is still useful to get design agreement and document the
functionality tho. 

DeKlarit is another product that generates from design worthy of
exploration. Lots of nice stuff going on in that area. 

MAPICS did have a product that did all this back in the days of Marcam
and Protean. It was very successful in what it did but the effort of
having to create the foundation all the way up to the UI with the
limited tools of that timeframe made it extremely expensive to develop.
It did introduce the concept of schema compilers, objects divorced from
the database, test harnesses for objects that are currently in vogue
today. 

Regards

Konrad 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory A. Garner [mailto:garnerg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:26 PM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: RE: Mapics XA and Syteline


Sounds like the CASE arguments of twenty years ago...

Gregory A. Garner
Garner Data Systems, Inc.
4270 Grand Teton Parkway
Suwanee, Georgia 30024
Phone 770.845.9636   Fax 770.614.3496 - 800 254 3630
e-mail: ggarner_gds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Konrad Underkofler
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:13 PM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: RE: Mapics XA and Syteline


Since MAPICS XA is a very dead end I would like to eventually see the
functionality that Syteline or whatever incorporates to include it in a
comparison with other contenders for modern functional ERP systems.
Given their cost structure I am not sure it would be much less expensive
to continue with MAPICS or just move to a new vendor. Every generation
of hardware and OS seems to produce a leader in applications to support
it as the old leaders remain too tied to their existing customer base to
prosper and survive. 

As far as technology goes... I am not sure .Net is really ready for ERP
primetime yet. I would bet on J2EE being the better investment for the
next couple of years at least. Linux + Oracle + J2EE is the sweet spot
right now. With M$ you get the joy and the horror :) What the MRP run
blue screened? It is not able to continue? It wants to report its
problem??? 

Long term I would bet most of the functionality will be incorporated in
code generators doing either Java or .Net. Everybody will be able to
roll their own custom package with fewer fixes, few workarounds, far
less add on applications and less cost. 

Regards,

Konrad

-----Original Message-----
From: Vinh Pham [mailto:vip7346@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:39 PM
To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Mapics XA and Syteline


Hi List:
See below and ..... any comment ?


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