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Well of course we do. We had a 602A calculating card punch with the skip jump tabs to tell it where to stop and punch. And it had a whopping 72 positions of storage - not 72K, not 72MB - but 72. Six rolling counters of 12 digits each - and they could even be programmed to allow TWO different numbers in some of them, so you could actually store 12 numbers. But then we got advanced and would roll numbers in and out to do two or three step calculations. For the younger set, a calculating card punch could multiply different fields of information on the card, like hours times rate and actually punch the answer back in the same card - probably about 6 cards a minute. Seriously, when we retired it, IBM told us it was going to the "museum in Rochester." We had a neighbor down the road with a 604 that was vented because of the HEAT - and the users used it to warm up their hamburgers and sandwiches. Does anyone remember the 010 card punch? or the 054 card verifiers? (After you "punched" the data in the card, another operator used another machine, a verifier and "verified" that it was punched correctly). How about the 514 and 519 programmable gangpunch machines and the 085 programmable collators. The 402 programmable accounting machines and 407? And don't forget the smaller, more efficient 96 column cards used by the System/3 and MFCM (Mighty Fine Card Machine" where the card reader made 90 degree turns. -----Original Message----- From: Roy Luce [mailto:lwl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:17 PM To: 'MAPICS ERP System Discussion' Subject: In days of Olde ... (was MAPICS books) Recently I mentioned to a young software developer that when I got in to this business punch cards had 90 columns and round holes. His response: "before you mentioned holes I thought you were talking about time cards. What are punch cards?" It's been a long time since I've thought of 602s and 607s, 082s and 083s, 085s or even 650s, 1401s, 1410s and 1440s. Or how about 305 RAMACs. I bet there are very few who remember tabulating punches, cranks for column selections, gang sorting or plug board programming. Or things like bench checking and word marks. Or an hour and 30 minutes to compile a 500 source statement COBOL programs. Roy Luce Systems Plus - Midwest Main: 847-540-9635 Cell: 847-910-0884 Fax: 208-330-9032 Email: rluce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:38 PM To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion Subject: RE: MAPICS books I keep a pack of 5081's and 3700's in my desk drawer to keep things in perspective when I am running short on disk in my 80GB desktop. I spent many an hour standing in front of an IBM Card Sorter, sorting 40 trays of cards by SSN for taxes. Service bureau job. Hmmmmm - I'm showing my age.... I keep that in mind when I go to complain about how hard it is to get some things done today. Maintaining a logical over the data on my 270 would probably take so little time I wouldn't be able to measure it. BTW - I'd like to hear the Nathan joke..... Dale @ Fleetwood nathan.quinones@xx ssys.com To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: cc: mapics-l-bounces@x Subject: RE: MAPICS books idrange.com 04/04/2003 03:29 PM Please respond to MAPICS ERP System Discussion I am getting a COMPLEX with all the talk about the "nathan" joke! Could somebody please tell me whether it is about me? :-) The only time I ever used punched cards was to build a "house of cards" when I was 10 years old! (My brother was in IT long before I was.) Nathan Quinones Custom Systems Corp 973-726-0202 x213 http://www.cussys.com |---------+-----------------------------> | | Philip Freimann | | | <PFreimann@xxxxxxx| | | ms.com> | | | Sent by: | | | mapics-l-bounces@x| | | idrange.com | | | | | | | | | 04/04/2003 03:12 | | | PM | | | Please respond to | | | MAPICS ERP System | | | Discussion | | | | |---------+-----------------------------> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "'MAPICS ERP System Discussion'" <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | | cc: | | Subject: RE: MAPICS books | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------| Is that the one about "slash, Nathan" - back in the days of punched cards and OCL decks? I didn't hear it (first) from Dave, but I have used it for at least 30 years. I heard it from Tom Neuman - at the time he was head of IBM education in Milwaukee - later went on to be an IBM Branch Manager in Iowa. I still have a page of his jokes. Dave and I go back at least to the 70s - and we can also attest to his vast MAPICS and manufacturing knowledge. I think I even have some autographed copies. Are they worth more? Phil -----Original Message----- From: DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:27 PM To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion Subject: Re: MAPICS books Dave, I know I'm getting old and all, and my memory isn't what it used to be, but I don't remember a "Nathan" joke. Did you hold out on me? Dale @ Fleetwood Dave Turbide <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: MAPICS books mapics-l-bounces@x idrange.com 04/04/2003 01:58 PM Please respond to MAPICS ERP System Discussion What's wrong with the "Nathan" joke? It's always been a favorite! In fact, I still use it. Seriously, thanks for the kind words. I have not done any direct consulting with MAPICS users for a couple years but I still like to stay in touch. And I still have a few copies of those books taking up space in my closet. Dave Turbide www.daveturbide.com message: 3 date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 20:13:04 -0500 (EST) from: Don <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: MAPICS books ditto... Heck I even remember him telling his "nathan" joke back in Atlant in teh 80's... The good jokes I forget, the bad ones, well...:) Dave, good to see you still around and kicking...:) D.Rima ------ On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > This may not be the appropriate forum, but I will attest to Dave Turbide's > knowledge and writing skills. I've read his stuff, and also have used him > as a consultant (don't know if he still does that) very successfully! > > Dale Gindlesperger > Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------| > | | > | To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx | > | cc: | > | Subject: Re: MAPICS books | > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------| > > > I have also authored a couple MAPICS books - "MAPICS Production Activity > Control" and "MAPICS Planning". They are intended to teach users how to > set up and use the production and planning applications respectively. > > They are described more fully at www.daveturbide.com (click on "books > and > white papers") > > Good Luck. > > Dave > > from: "Bob Tenney" <bobtenney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: Re: MAPICS Manual > You might want to visit the www.tenneypubs.com web site. I have authored > or > co-authored six MAPICS-related books. > Bob Tenney > Bob Tenney Solutions, LLC > MAPICS - FRx - Presence - Crystal Reports > 828-526-8976 > Visit www.tenneypubs.com for books about > IFM, COM, G/L Interfaces > Info WorkPlace, Cost Accounting, and FRx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vien Nguyen Quan" <viennguyen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:24 AM > Subject: MAPICS Manual > > > Hi all, > > I am assigned a task of research MAPICS . Therefore I need documents > or > manuals about MAPICS . > > If you have any documents, it's very gratefull that you give me them > > Thank you > > Best regards > > Vien Nguyen > _______________________________________________ > This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l > or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. > Dave Turbide, CFPIM, CMfgE, CIRM Market Analysis and Communication 883 Ocean Blvd Hampton, NH 03842 phone(603) 926-1435 fax (603) 926-0862 www.daveturbide.com _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l.
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