RE: How can I leave sessions up? -- MAPICS-L

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Dale
We have a Mapics customer who is using our Off Line Data Collection Module
while his system is doing his backup.  I would be glad to have you talk to
him and see if this might be of some interest to you.  You can contact me
off line at the address below for further information.

Sincerely

Andy Jacobs
President
Integrated Barcoding Systems
734-669-6000
ajjacobs@intbarcode.com

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From: DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com
[mailto:DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:52 AM
To: mapics-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: How can I leave sessions up?


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Barb,

That'd be perfect.  Thanks!

Dale @ Fleetwood





Barb Nash <Barb.Nash@phbcorp.com>
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11/06/01 08:41 AM
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Hi Dale,
                 We run MDCC and were in a similar situation.   We run 5
days a week,
3 shifts, and run nightly backups using American Vikings Unattended Backup
software at 3:00 am.  I also had a bunch of inquiry users would regularly
not sign off at night, which would prevent our backups from running.
Before
MDCC I could just end QINTER, but with MDCC you can't.  I created a CL to
end all active users, I'd be happy to send it to you if you like.  It does
a
WRKOBJLCK SYSCTL *PRINT.  The spool file is copied to a physical file
which
I query to parse out the unattached jobs, monitor job... Once I get rid of
all that, I read through the file and do an ENDJOB on each signed on user.
It works great.  I also have a job schedule before and after the backups
to
stop and start the monitor job.  Let me know if you'd like more info.

Barb

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From:            DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com
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Sent:            Monday, November 05, 2001 5:53 PM
To:              mapics-l@midrange.com
Subject:                 How can I leave sessions up?

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I have an problem that I sure hope others have run into and solved.  My
company works 24hr/day, 5 days/week, and uses MAPICS all the time,
although only inquiries are used interactively at night (2nd/3rd shift).
My IT department runs lights out from 5:30pm until 6am.  We run MAPICS
backups nightly using Help System's ROBOT (that's how we run the nightly
schedule, also) at 3:00am, when the factory is on lunch break.

I simply cannot get the users to sign off at night.  How I handle this is
to do the following:

1.  ENDSBS QINTER OPTION(*IMMED).
2.  Run a CL that disables all user-IDs that work at night (only inquiries
run at night).
3.  Use ROBOT to end all UMM jobs.
4.  CLRPFM AMFLIB/JOBACT  (I don't have a problem with batch jobs not
being done).
5.  STRSBS QINTER
6.  ROBOT runs backups
7.  Run a CL that enables all user-IDs that were disabled.
8.  Use ROBOT to restart the UMM jobs.

This has worked great, but I am in the process of implementing MDCC
(formerly Paperless Manufacturing).  I need to let users report time and
pieces on operations during the lunch break (not everyone takes lunch).
That means that I need to let the sessions stay up during backups.  I'm
not worried about the data not updating until after backups - that's not a
problem.  However, I am stumped on how to keep sessions up using my
current technique to be able to run backups.

As I see it, I have two options.

1.  Figure out a way to have some terminals (actually, PCs connected over
a LAN) run under a different subsystem, or
2.  Figure out a different way to get people off the system.

We have a union shop in the factory, and threats of reprimand and/or
termination don't work to get them to sign the terminals  off.  The
terminals are shared, and it's always "someone else's job" to sign them
off - I can't get accountability.

I realize this is as much an AS/400 question as a MAPICS one, but surely
out of the thousands of MAPICS shops out there, someone else has had to
come up with this answer by now.  At least, I hope so.

Thanks in advance,

Dale Gindlesperger
IT Manager
Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.

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