Hi again, Mapics ML:

I suddenly realized that I may not have done all my preliminary homework before 
posting my original message.

I went to Mapics Support (No Wait Response) and under this subject I was 
informated that Mapics provides the following relating to MO closeout variances:

1. Order Closeout Variance Analysis Report (AMVGO)

2. The Users Manual for Production Control and Costing discuss the calculations 
used for the above report in the section dealing with Reports.

So it appears that us Mapics DB users are left out as I don't see this Report 
on our menu or in our Manuals.  It must have been introduced in one of the 
early versions (or 1st version) of Mapics XA.

Therefore, I append my original request as follows:

1. Delete Questions 1 thru 3, and 5 and 6

2. Revise Question 4 as applicable to Mapics DB Mapics ML users only

I'm sorry for wasting valuable Internet bandwidth on this matter.


------My Original Message to Mapics ML------

>From: "aldg" <aldg@mail.rvi.net>
>Reply-To: MAPICS-L@midrange.com
>Date: Fri,  8 Sep 2000 11:35:01 -0700

>Mapics Environment: Mapics DB/Y2K (Mod 4)
>Hi Mapics ML:
>When a Manufacturing Order (MO) closes and is purged to Inventory Management's 
>(IM) history files, one of the Mapics screen reports is called "Order History: 
>Accounting Summary" (AMIH14). 
>This report, on the right columns, shows the various individual variances 
>(Material, Setup, Run, Machine, Overhead and Misc; two variances for each) 
>related to the MO.  On the left part of the report, a summary of the MO close 
>out in dollars is reported (Actual Costs less Receipts at Standard net to 
>Total Variance).
>I have several questions relating to these variances:
>1. Why isn't the right columns of indivudual variances summarized to tie into 
>the Total Variance shown on the left side of the report?  
>2. I believe there's also a final "Closeout Variance" (a kind of catch all) 
>that's also computed by Mapics but it's not shown separately on the above 
>report with the other individual variances.  Why is this?
>3. I've tried to investige the material variances reported above on a 
>particular MO (I leave the subject of Labor and other variances to another 
>Mapics ML posting, if necessary) by printing out the two Mapics Reports:
>"Order History - Production Detail Report" (AMIH33), and "Order History - 
>Accounting Detail Report" (AMIH34)
>but these two reports make no attempt to tie into any of the dollar variances. 
> (To their partial credit, they do touch the subject of labor hour variances 
>by routing steps, but they make no attempt to convent labor hour variances to 
>labor hour dollar variances on these reports.)  Why is this?
>4. How do you handle the reconcilation of material MO variences at MO closeout 
>at your shop?
>5. Has Mapics updated its reports in the various versions of XA to provide 
>some reconcilation of the individual various dollar variances shown on the 
>Order history Accounting Summary (AMIH14) report?
>6. I'm really at a loss in dealing with this when we have so many MOs closing 
>daily and weekly.  If the Mapics Reports are dificient in this area, are there 
>other approaches (3rd party software, etc.) to deal with this matter?
>I'm sorry this posting is so long but in a way it represents some of my 
>frustration in dealing with this aspect of Mapics.  I look forward to reading 
>your comments on this subject.  :-)
>Above message before copy enclosure (if any) was sent by:
>Al Gershen
>Grants Pass, OR 97526 
>aldg@mail.rvi.net & aldg@webtv.net;
>and thru ICQ # 12342782
------End of Original Posting to Mapics ML------

Above message before copy enclosure (if any) was sent by:

Al Gershen
Grants Pass, OR 97526 
aldg@mail.rvi.net & aldg@webtv.net;
and thru ICQ # 12342782

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