DK,
Thanks for your response. I'm in the process now of trying to figure out
where/when the conversion could go wrong so your response is in good timing.
I'll report back if I find anything.

Thanks,
Geren White

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From: java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dan Kimmel
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Java Programming on and around the IBM i
Subject: RE: Sending Hebrew data from RPG program to Java program

Geren,

I'm not familiar with right-to-left intermixed with left-to-right, but I
have done a lot with spooled files and java and double-byte character sets.
So let me offer a few suggestions:

There are lots of transformations going on here, not just the one done by
the Bidi classes. The javadoc for AS400BidiTransform states that the " class
provides layout transformations that allow the conversion of Bidi text in
AS/400 format (after its conversion to Unicode) to Bidi text in Java format,
or vice-versa ". That conversion to Unicode is not simple.

RPG deals with text in what is equivalent to java byte arrays. Every one of
those byte arrays has a CCSID. RPG does lots of work to convert everything
it reads from tables or files or streams into its internal character fields
into the CCSID of the job. It has to do that so comparisons between field
vales work as the RPG programmer expects. Before you put that byte array
stuff into AS400BidiTransform, it has to be converted into a java string;
that is, it must be converted from the byte array to Unicode using some
CCSID. So the first place to check is to see if the java string is properly
converted to Unicode. Apparently it is at least pretty close as you don't
complain about characters not being changed properly, just the order of the
characters.

Second place to look is to see whether the characters are going into those
RPG byte arrays properly. How is the RPG reading the spooled file? SCS
spooled files use an ancient 3270 stream format that employs SHIFT-IN,
SHIFT-OUT characters to switch back and forth to double-byte character set
data. I think Hebrew is single-byte so that probably isn't an issue, but the
old format does something weird for switching back and forth between LTR and
RTL, too. It'll take some study to figure this out. If you are using CPYSPLF
to get the spooled file into a database file, study the database file and
see if the problem is there.

Let us know what you find.

DK

-----Original Message-----
From: java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Geren White
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:58 PM
To: java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Sending Hebrew data from RPG program to Java program

Hello All,

I'm having some issues with handling Hebrew data that I was hoping some
of you might be able to help me out on. I'm trying to send Hebrew data from
an RPG program to a Java program which the Java program then takes and
constructs a PDF. I'm having a few issues with processing the Hebrew data
to get it into a correct display order. I'm the Java programmer on this
project so please excuse any iSeries/RPG ignorance.

So first off the RPG program sends a string of data to the Java program
that is a mix of Hebrew/English/numerical data. The data comes from a
spooled file on the iSeries and is actually each line of the file. There is
no processing of the data on the iSeries side and it is sent as is. The
Java program is receiving most of the data as I would expect in a logical
order. Logical order being the order in which the characters were typed.
I've used the Java Bidi class to process the data and I've tried the
AS400BidiTransform class. Both of these classes can handle most of the data
correctly and get it into a correct display order. The issue is that there
are certain strings of data that are received in an unexpected order.



This is best explained through examples so assume capital H's are Hebrew:



An example of a situation that can be handled by the Java Bidi class or
AS400BidiTransform:

First the correct display order:

english :HHHH

I would receive this string as:

HHHH: english

The first H in the received string would be the right most H in the display
order. As you can see this would be a logical order for bidirectional data
as the user would type the Hebrew and then switch to LTR with the english
portion. There are much more complex situations that are handled correctly
by the Bidi classes as well but this is just a simple example.



Now an example of an incorrect ordering:

Correct display order:

350 X 250 X 150 :HHHH

Received order:

HHHH: 150 350 X 250 X



This data does not seem to be in a logical order. The first number after
the Hebrew, 150 in this case, seems to stay within the RTL segment while the
rest of the equation gets put into a LTR segment. The Java Bidi class and
the AS400BidiTransform class do not process this correctly. There are many
more situations where this happens and way too many to have special cases
for.



I've been reading all about bidirectional data processing and iSeries
support for it and can't seem to figure this out. I'm thinking it might be
an issue with the CCSID on the iSeries. The system's CCSID is 65535 and all
our jobs should be the same. So from my understanding there shouldn't be
any conversion on the iSeries side but somewhere along the line this data is
getting jumbled.


If any of you have any experience with this or any ideas they would be much
appreciated. Let me know if you need more information. Thank you for your
time.



Regards,

Geren White

CYBRA Corporation



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